In This Episode

00:00:00 – Introduction to Stephan Spencer’s Spiritual Journey

00:08:28 – Aligning Business with Spirituality

00:22:47 – Practical Spiritual Practices for Business Success

00:38:40 – Podcasts and Living an Enlightened Life

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Hello and welcome to the Enlighten Life podcast. I’m your host, Scott Allen. My guest today says that when you align your soul’s purpose with your work, everything changes. Your business grows, your happiness expands, and your entire life feels richer and more meaningful. Today on the Enlightened Life podcast, I’m thrilled to welcome Stephan Spencer, a three time author, internationally recognized speaker, SEO expert, and host of Not One But Two successful podcasts, Marketing Speak, and Get Yourself optimized. Stefan’s journey isn’t just about business success. It’s about a profound spiritual awakening that reshaped the way he lives, works, and connects with the world. You’ve ever wondered how to blend spiritual insight with real world success? This conversation will inspire you, uplift you, and maybe even transform the way you see your own path. Stay tuned, you don’t want to miss it. Hello, Stephen, how are you?

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I’m great.

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Welcome to the show. So glad you’re here.

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I’m glad to be here. Yeah.

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Yeah. You know, I just, I think really just starting out, people are going to say, well, why, why do we have an SEO expert on the show? What, What? You have a story, though. I mean, it goes way beyond that. What is your. What is. You know, what Would you like to share with us about your journey?

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Yeah, so I, I was agnostic almost my whole life. You know, it’s like, I think it was. Was it Carl Jung who said that life begins at age 40? It was age 42 where I had a spiritual awakening and I went from agnostic to connected, and everything changed, and everything then became more miraculous and amazing and meaningful and profound and guided. But that was just the beginning because my second awakening, which happened about eight years after that, was a whole other level. And that is where I prayed to God for a job in the middle of the night. And I was inspired by a podcast guest, actually, who had prayed on her deathbed for a job. That was Sheila Gillette in 1969, this famous psychic. And I just kind of took a page from her book. I didn’t know what I was doing, but I just started praying for a job. And then I was shown the Matrix, this illusion that we live in, you know, samsara, Maya, whatever you want to call it. And I was given a mission and I was also given psychic abilities. And I didn’t realize that for several weeks. But yeah, like clairvoyance, clairaudience, Claire, like lots of Claire’s and even medical intuition and animal communication stuff. And I’ve been playing with all sorts of different areas and now I’m much more kind of grounded and on the path. But yeah, it was quite a wild ride because I was just so excited and like, oh, I can’t wait to start each day and, and learn what I’m supposed to learn and do what I’m supposed to do. And I have, like, I. I became really ungrounded from running my business and serving my clients, and I was just flying High. And I had a lesson to learn in that. So I have to bring that energy down from the upper worlds and not just fly high in the sky, enjoying that energy. No, I’m supposed to draw that down here, manifest it here, and help the physical reality become more kind of imbued with that higher vibration.

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I think a lot of people are on a journey right now. That’s what it feels like to me. But I can relate to you because my life didn’t start till 50 and everything kind of opened up, and then it’s kind of cool, it’s kind of interesting. Look at all this stuff that’s happening now. But you have to learn how to use it, because it’s not just meant to be chaotic and crazy. So once you figure it out, that’s, that’s the key. And it seems, you know, that, that the world that you live in, I’m talking about the business world, the SEO, the marketing, and all of this is really, it almost is like two separate, Two separate entities. You don’t think of one as being necessarily spiritual and, and, you know, gifted in that way. It’s like an engineer. My dad’s an engineer. I mean, there’s no shades of gray in the middle. It’s black and white. And it’s. I think it’s fantastic how you’ve been able to sort of blend the two.

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Yes. Well, that’s the thing is it’s really not two different worlds. That’s the illusion. If you believe it’s two different worlds, then you’re not playing the game in the way that it’s meant to be played. So how do I manifest higher vibration kind of consciousness in the business world and in marketing, it’s by staying connected to God through everything that I do on each client’s website, on the marketing initiatives that I’m working on, in the speeches that I give and the podcast episodes that I produce. So God is imbued through everything that I do and every decision that I make. Know I don’t make decisions without asking God. I, I, the reason we’re talking today is because I asked God, I happened to see, and I know nothing’s random. So I happen to see your name in a list of many people interviewed by somebody who pitched my show. So I got to know about the person who pitched, but I, in checking out that person and her show, your name just lit up, and I can tell the difference when it’s like kind of like an angel number kind of thing, and I’m like, okay, I’m supposed to Interview this guy, huh? Absolutely. So I. I pitch you to be on my show, and then next thing you know, yeah, I’m on your show. So, you know, that’s the magic of it is you. You’re not given full script. You’re given. It’s like you’re driving a car at night and it’s windy roads and you know you’re going to get to your destination, but you don’t see the whole road.

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You.

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You only see the hundred meters ahead that the headlights have lit up. And you’re okay with that because you trust that God’s putting you on a beautiful, amazing path and that as the universe conspires to make all the stuff happen that’s meant to happen. And so this conversation meant to happen. Absolutely, yeah.

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And it’s sort of a relief that God said, okay, go ahead and have a chat with him. He’s all right. You can go talk to him. It’s fine. You know, because it’s. It really is. And I know you’re saying, I always. I often say it’s like having an arrow that just appears on your, you know, right in front of you. You’re going to go this way or this way, but you don’t know what’s down there. You just trust it and follow the arrow and it takes you where you need to be. And great things, when you trust are just laid out in front of you. And that’s not to get all religious. I mean, you know, it is what it is. It’s this universal life force, spirit, God, whatever you want to call it. Do you consider yourself religious or are you. I mean, in re. In the religion sense. You know what I mean? Churchy, religious? Or are you more just like in here?

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It’s both. They’re two sides of the same coin. I used to believe that there was this separation and there isn’t. So I’m really enjoying Judaism. I’m not officially Jewish, but I study a lot Jewish stuff. I started Kabbalah. That was my first foray into it. I’ve been doing studying that for over a decade. But the more kind of foundational Judaism is incredibly beautiful and amazing and practical as well. It’s great framework. It’s kind of like the scaffolding for all the other magical, mystical stuff that I’ve been learning. So it kind of sets me in the right path and in the right frame of reference. And by the way, just a fun little exercise for our listener. You know, you mentioned, like, this arrow that points to which direction to go.

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Right.

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People might Think, well, that isn’t that special for you. I wish I had that. Yeah, we all have it. We are all psychic. We are all psychic. So how do you activate this? This is very simple. I don’t remember where I learned it. I think I was directly from above. I just got it in a download. And that is you can have these kind of, like, emojis that you visualize in your mind, right? So imagine a, you know, like a green check or an upvote, you know, thumbs up. Yeah. And that’s. That’s the positive yes answer to your question. And the red X, maybe it’s in a box. Right? That’s the. No. It’s like, is this somebody I’m meant to do a business deal with? You know, is this going to bring about the most benevolent outcome? That’s another thing. That’s another secret, like, super powerful little ninja thing I learned was mbo most benevolent outcome. Because then you don’t have to know all the other things that go into play in the bigger picture, in the whole scene. So it’s like, is this going to bring about the most benevolent outcome for me to do business with this person? And then you get a. You know, it’s either in your body, a feeling, or you visualize it in your mind’s eye. That’s not that you made it come up because you’ve been practicing like, okay, red X, green check or red X. And, you know, the thumbs up. God, show me which one. And sometimes you’ll get fooled. I’ve learned lots of painful lessons along the way. But even if 90% of the time it’s on point, I can see around corners 90% of the time, like, wow, that is quite an edge. So that’s a very simple thing for our listener to start practicing is using this kind of emoji thing. They could have multiple symbols for things like, hey, I don’t just want a yes or no. I also want to know, like, is this somebody that is, like, somebody’s draining my energy? Is somebody kind of like energy vampiring on me or courting me? Maybe you have an emoji for that. Maybe you have an emoji for this person feels like, interested in me in a way that is not appropriate. I’m happily married, so I want an emoji for that. Right. So there are lots of different ways you could utilize this simple technology of, like, an emoji.

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Yeah.

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And just trust that what gets popped into your mind is being popped into your mind. It’s not you driving the bus. It’s God your guides, it’s your angels popping it into your head.

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That’s exactly how it works. And I always talk about when I teach, you know, new psychic, when I say new psychics, people who are just sort of learning about this, create a list, a library of symbols, if you want to call it that. And, you know, what does red mean to you? What does it feel like when you see red? When they give you the color red, what does that mean? Or what does it mean when you see a rose? Or what does it mean when you see whatever it is that you get? There’s usually some reason behind it. You weren’t thinking of it a minute ago, and they popped it in your head. I also feel, and I wonder if you can relate to this as well, when you trust and you believe opportunity presents itself, it’s like driving an elephant through the middle of your living room. You can’t miss it. It’s right there and you just know where it’s coming from. Like, you could have worked so hard to get to where you are in your business and maybe never got there. But when you sat back and said, show me the way, it really does. And, and again, I’m not making this. This is truly the way the universe unfolds.

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Right. It really is not just the visuals, it’s the words that are articulated into your inner hearing. You know, a great little kind of analogy of this. I happen to see this. And Tyler Henry, the Hollywood medium, has a show on Netflix. And I, I watched an episode where he was trying to think of the word and he couldn’t think of it. He couldn’t think of it. He just couldn’t think of it as bothering him. And so he just. I could see where at a moment he made a decision. I’m going to ask it from above. And I was trying to think of the word. And then I asked as I was articulating this and I got. Oh, yeah, the word was eloped. So when he was trying to describe something, he’s like, what’s that thing? And I, I knew what was happening. He was asking above for the, the word. And then he got it popped in.

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Yeah. Can I share with you?

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You have like infinite intelligence at your, the, the infinite Google at your disposal. You don’t have to whip out your phone and it’s there 24 7. It’s amazing.

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It is amazing. It is amazing. I, I was in New Jersey over the weekend. I had an event there and there was a woman in the audience that I knew, but I didn’t Know, well, she had. She and her husband had lost her son about four or. And more recently, he had lost his dad. And I knew the dad was coming through. I don’t know much about them other than those details. The man was coming through. I had a feeling I was with them, but I said, you know, you’re going to have to give me something that I don’t know in order to know that it’s really for them, because I know some of the details. I can’t get it. You just can’t tell me. This person died, and this is how they passed. And what they showed me was the older gentleman riding horses with the. With the younger male, the boy that had passed. That was the piece of the puzzle. They gave it to me so that I could show them that those people were there for them. It wasn’t just, oh, yeah, you had a son that died, and he died this way or that way. It was the other little pieces. And they’ll give it to you. They know. They know. It’s incredible.

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Yeah. You just have to be very, very careful. Because when I first went on this journey after my abilities came online, I was so enthusiastic that I did not have discernment. And it’s like, you don’t just whip out a Ouija board and start playing with that at home, you know, or ever.

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But definitely do not do that.

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But you. You. You talked about how you. You had this. This recording device, and you brought it to your home, and you were talking to the spirits that were just there, and you were turning on the device, and you were like, whoa, do you know what you’re inviting into the. You don’t even know what you. Into your own house.

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Don’t. And I had called a friend of mine, and I said, julie, check this out. Listen to. And she said, oh, my God. Don’t. Don’t do that in your house. What is wrong with you? Don’t ever do that in your house. And she has some abilities as well, but it was so strange to me and so foreign. I had never experienced anything like that before in my life.

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Yes, but this. This is. Sometimes you learn through personal experience, and that’s painful. And sometimes you learn through the mistakes of others. And in this case, I’m hoping our listener learns through our mistakes. Don’t do this. Don’t play with fire at home or anywhere, but don’t play with fire without knowing what you’re doing. Because when you are like this bug light, whatever is on the other side, it may not be of the light, and it’s attracted to your light, and now it’s glommed on to you, and you don’t know what you open yourself up to.

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It’s true.

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You have to be very mindful.

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You have to learn how to surround yourself in the white light. And these days, I don’t worry about that when I do my readings, when I do, when I meet with people, I know I’m connecting with people who are in the light, in the white light. But you don’t always know what’s going to come through. And it’s scary.

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It’s a lesson. I mean, you had to, like, you had to go through the school of hard knocks to get that level of confidence and competence to know that you are protected and that you are in the light and no one’s going to fool you or take you on some bad path.

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Yeah, you’re correct. You know, you often ask, why is this in my movie?

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What is that?

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What is that? What does that mean? And how can people apply that to their own lives?

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Yeah. So think of your life as the Truman Show. Did you see that movie?

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Yeah, I may have. I don’t know. It’s been. It’s probably been a while, but I don’t know.

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Yeah. Yeah, so. So the Truman Show. I saw that when it was in the theaters in the 90s, I think it was, and I was just so tripped out by it because I had no idea. I hadn’t even seen the trailer, hadn’t read anything about it. I was just so, like, enwrapped by it. Here’s this guy who has no clue that he is the star of a reality show, and the reality show is his entire life. So I just ruined it for you. If you haven’t seen the movie, but go see the movie. Watch. Yeah, watch it on Netflix or whatever. And that’s a metaphor for your life. And your life, I’m saying you, the listener, or you who? Reader, whatever. If you are Truman and everyone else is in on it, they’re all either supporting actors or extras in your movie, then that means that this is a totally rigged game and nothing is random. Nothing just randomly shows up on the movie set. Everything is precisely placed there. Nothing just materializes onto a movie set.

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Right.

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So there’s nothing random here. And that means also that when things happen that you don’t like and it feels like a tragedy or travesty or, you know, just unfair or unfounded or whatever, there’s a lesson there. There’s a blessing in it. And if. And it really behooves us to figure out what that is, to talk to God, to try to get to the, to the heart of it so that we don’t keep getting the same lesson over and over again, you know, because one way to think of it is you get these, like, feathers that gently drop on our shoulder, and these are gentle nudges to change things or to like, you know, self. Correct. And then we ignore those many times being generic here, not pointing the finger. I do.

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No, no, no, of course.

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Yeah. And then of course, the volume gets turned up if you do ignore them and that turns into a brick. And when the bricks fall on you, those hurt. And some people actually ignore the bricks and turns into the Mack truck. That could be a terrible diagnosis, for example, or something. But it’s life changing, life altering. And I want to preempt even the feathers. I want to be so proactive and ahead of things that in my movie, I want to get the, like, I want to keep moving forward without having the, the challenges. I mean, if the challenges come, okay, that means that, that means there. I. I needed it. But even, you know, before the challenges come, can I take a proactive action that will move this, this, this movie forward of my life and, you know, this, this mission that I have? So if I ask the question to myself, why is this in my movie? It’s like, why is this showing up for me right now? Not to me, but for me right now, like, what’s the lesson? What’s the message? And what’s my next action?

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Yeah. No, and that’s beautiful. The first line in my book is something to the effect of, I have always been. It is abundantly clear that I’ve always been exactly where I was supposed to be, even if I didn’t understand it at the time. Because everything, as you say, is a lesson. And you wonder, why am I here? You can look back in it in hindsight and say, my God, if I hadn’t experienced this, I wouldn’t have this or I wouldn’t be doing what I’m doing right now. And it was all, it was all a dress rehearsal for where I am. So I love that. I do.

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It’s all, it’s all perfect.

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It really is. When you look at the grand design, it really is perfect. Yeah.

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Had you been doing horrible, difficult childhood that I wouldn’t wish on anybody and I wouldn’t change anything thing about it?

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Yeah. It made you who you are.

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Yeah. It’s it, it provided the foundation, the building blocks. And if I didn’t have that, I’d be in a very different place and not fulfilling the mission that I was meant to fulfill.

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Had you been doing your marketing and SEO work before you had your awakening?

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Yes. So I started. I dropped out of a PhD program in 1995 to start this agency and I had no idea what I was doing. But I, at the time I just thought, you know, lucky breaks like one after another after another. But of course it was all by design. It was all orchestrated for me. But at the time, I was taking a lot of credit for it, you know, like, oh, I got a lot of gumption for a 23 year old kid, kind of stealing this, the mic from the person who’s supposed to be leading the session or whatever and chiming it. Like, I, I did crazy stuff that you think w. That’s. That’s really gutsy and maybe inappropriate. Like I was given the job of a mic runner at a conference because I couldn’t afford to go to the conference as attendee. It was thousands of dollars and I just dropped out of school. So they gave me a job as a volunteer, as a mic runner. And I started chiming in on, helping answer some of the questions for the panel, which is really incredibly rude. But they just were not doing justice to the, for the, the audience. And I just thought, well, let me just add something. I had a stack of business cards. By the end of that day, I had my invite pulled for the rest of the conference. So I wasn’t able to attend.

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Oh, no.

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Which was kind of devastating in one hand because my ego. But on the other hand, it was all perfect because exactly the clients that I was supposed to get, which meant I didn’t have to get funding, I didn’t have to get a bank loan or anything. I got funded by two clients that were in that business card stack. They ended up being each worth half a million dollars in client revenue over the course of their lifetime. So they’re, you know, the client lifetime. That’s incredible. That’s a lot of money for a kid who’s trying to start an agency. And none of that would have happened if I didn’t have the gumption to get up and like, start chiming in and helping answer the questions on behalf of the panel. But, you know, would I have done it differently and with the hindsight and, you know, retrospect, you know, a little more elegantly and, and respectfully? Of course. Of course I would. But it was all perfect. It was exactly what had to happen. That’s what did happen.

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Yeah. So how did, how did Your business shift after you began to live more spiritually aligned.

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So the. The biggest shift, I would say it was when I asked God to be my business partner. I interviewed a guy named Curtis Thomas. Curtis Lee Thomas is a well respected breath work expert. And in the interview, he mentioned that just as an. As an aside, as a passing thought, like, hey, you know, you know, God can be your business partner. My, My previous business partner mentioned that in passing to me, and I was like, what? How’s that work? Like, tell me more about that. And I’m like, yeah, I want to know more about how does that work? Like I want to do that. How do you do that? Well, first you ask. Ask God, does he want to be your business partner? You don’t just assume. I mean, really, you’re just a steward for everything. Your money is not your money. You know, your business is not your business. None of this is yours. Even your body, you’re renting it. This is God’s body that he’s renting to you. So if everything’s, God’s, I mean, you can’t just presume that, you know, he’s going to say, oh, I’ll be business partners with you. You got to ask. And he’ll say yes, assuming you’re not doing something illegal or something. Right, right, right, right. Once you feel that to be true, that he’s your business partner, then you can relax a bit and feel more carried down the river instead of having to swim it all the time, especially upstream. That’s hard work, you know, so deals come. You know, I get a nudge or an intuitive kind of hit to contact somebody I haven’t spoken to for years and years. And. Stefan, it’s been ages. I can’t believe you’re contacting me right now. We’re about to hire a new SEO firm and I of you can. Can we get a proposal? You know, it’s like, how does that work? You know, of course it’s. It’s all a rigged game. That’s. That’s exactly how it works.

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Yeah, that’s great. That’s great. So. So what can you say to people, you know, that might ask, you know, I. I’m stuck in this, this, this hustle and bustle, this grind of trying to build my life, build my. Build my business, take care of my family, you know, deal with my children and, and all of that that goes with it. What’s the first step? Like, how can they tap into a more intuitive, soulful way of working?

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Yeah, well, start small because what I was Describing, like, the emojis and things like that, asking questions, journaling. You know, I have this remarkable tablet that I journal on every day. I put in there things that I’m grateful for that I really do want in my life, and also things I’m grateful for that I really didn’t want to have come into my life. But everything is a blessing, whether it’s a revealed blessing or an unrevealed yet to be revealed blessing, you know, as another matter. So it helps me to reflect on those things and to see them more as blessings. And then the most kind of immediately applicable thing for our listener is the section in my journal for the day where I write about the messages. You know, thank you, God, for the messages. And then, you know, two dots, a colon, and then next line, a dash. All right, give them to me, please.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m ready.

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I’m ready for them, right? Because I. I didn’t get them yet. Or if I did get, like, some stuff came in overnight, I wake up and I’m like, okay, I got to write these down before, you know, so I don’t forget them. And if something comes in and I’m in the middle of prayer or something, and it would be disrespectful for me to stop my prayer and write it down like, God, please remind me when I’m done with the prayers so that I capture this, because this feels important. Yes, it’s important. Yes, I will. Okay, great. So then I set it aside. I get back into my state of concentration, talking to God in prayer, whether it’s structured prayer or personal kind of unstructured prayer. And then I trust that this is parked safely so that I can get journaled when I’m ready. You know, maybe it’s 20 minutes from now. And so that’s very easy, practical stuff that people can do and integrate this sort of stuff of the. The unseen world into the scene world on a constant basis. You know, every decision, every. Like, everything, every input, every circumstance should be run through that filter of what would God want me to do now? Like, what would be the next most. What would be the next action that’s the most benevolent, that brings about the most benevolent outcome? What. What am I meant to do here? What am I meant to understand or receive through this? And then all that. I journal as much as I can, you know, thousands of pages of journaling. And I used to never journal. I hated journaling. I had no interest in it. It wasn’t until I reframed it as this is a way of me respecting, honoring and appreciating God for all the blessings. And they’re just in like innumerable myriad blessings. I can’t even like fathom how, how great they are, but I can at least do my little tiny attempt and jot a few pages every day. And yeah, your life will change, your business will change, your finances will change, your relationship will change. Everything changes because you are operating from that, that higher vibration, higher level. Like, okay, I’m trying to serve God here the best way possible in the way that I’m interacting with people, my clients, with my, my wife, my children, my friends, my family members. Everything’s a prayer. Like your whole life, your life lived as a prayer. That’s amazing.

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Yeah, it’s true. You know, it’s funny because I was going to ask you that, you know, what practices are your, are your non negotiables, you know, and I, and I think like journaling, obviously, clearly that’s one of yours in prayer and perhaps maybe in meditation. I don’t know if you meditate much, but I feel like that these things together can bring about so much change.

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Yeah, yeah. So one psychic, I, I forget if I think it was Karen. No, he said this. I interviewed her a couple times. That, that prayer is directing your energy is essentially like asking and talking. And meditation is listening. If you don’t do both sides of the conversation, then how are you going to have a conversation, an actual conversation, if it’s all just please, please, please, you know, pleading for things, then you’re not listening.

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Right.

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And nobody wants to be in conversation with a bad listener. So you have to meditate. And the way that I meditate is I’m constantly working on my vibration and my purity of thought so that I’m always a clear and clean receiver. Like, I don’t need to open my Akashic records. I don’t need to find a quiet spot or whatever. I’m just in constant receptive mode. Give it to me. I’m ready for it. Whatever you need. You need me to turn right, you need me to turn left, you need me to, to stop and, and give money to this homeless person as I’m going 40 miles an hour and just catch them on the corner of my eye and like I need to go circle back and, and drop some money off to this person. I’m in 100. I’m always on, I’m always, you know, you know, my, my FM tuner is always tuned into, to that high vibration radio station. I don’t, that’s Great garbage on Netflix. Heaven forbid. I wouldn’t watch anything like. Like inappropriate on. On the Internet. You know, I just, like, no way I’m not dropping my vibration into that lower place where I get noise or I get bad information that guides me to do something that takes me off the path and disconnects me from the creator. No way. Not worth it.

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No, that’s great. I mean, I love that advice. So. So how did your business change from before the. The awakening until, you know, then after.

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Yeah, yeah. Night and day difference. Night and day difference. So I used to be a road warrior. I used to run around from conference to conference. I’d often do, I don’t know, 15 or 20 even speaking gigs in a year. Many of those. And I’m talking not virtual, but, like, in person speaking gigs. It was exhausting. And I was away from my loved ones, you know, so it was hard. Now when my. So many years of my. So I’m in my second marriage, and this is my. My permanent marriage. This is. She’s my SoulMate, and for seven or so years of first seven years, she loved getting on planes with me, and we would travel the world. So we do all these conference gigs together. She’d hang out and, you know, sit in the back of the audience while I do my thing, and then we go see the sights afterwards. And that was fun. Until that made no sense because now we have a child, and this child’s five now. So, you know, I’m not interested in being a road warrior anymore. And thankfully, God has provided, you know, and I forget exactly the quote. It’s a biblical quote, but in the way that you want to be led, you’ll be led. In the way that you want to go, you will be led. So I wanted to be led in the path of, you know, burning the candle at both ends, going from, you know, gig to speaking gig. Not interested anymore. Now the path I want to be led on is more, you know, I. I just. I want this to be more synergistic and. And synchronistic and more magical and more just relying on intuition and not me having to do the hard slog. And, you know, if you prefer the hard slog, then that will be given to you. You know, it’s kind of like you. You have your expectations of how the universe works, and then you basically pro that. Pro. You’re programming that into the Matrix, you know, into your holodeck simulation. Like, okay, this is how I want the universe to work. You know, nothing comes free. Nothing’s easy. Anything Good. You have to work really, really hard for it and okay, that order up.

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You know, don’t you think, though, sometimes, you know, and I was thinking of this as you were saying it, when you’re doing the slog and you’re traveling all over the place, sometimes you think that that’s what success is. Oh, look at me, I’m busy. I have to be here, I have to be there. And that feels like success. But that may not really be what true success is.

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It is not. And it’s, it’s part of the illusion that we get sucked into. And the biggest, most dangerous part of the solution is that you are doing this. You, with the power of your right hand, made this client relationship happen or brought about this huge success for the client. And then you just are begging for a lesson, A very uncomfortable lesson. None of this is without God’s grace. Nothing happens without him willing it. And whether you think it’s a he or she, that’s all like details of, you know, you’re kind of like your constructs of how the universe works. But this is a fundamental universal law that if you think that you’re the all that is that you’re the, you’re, you’re like a pretty big deal, you’re going to get your hat handed to you. And I’ve had that happen very painful, painful lessons. Like, I lost my life savings in one situation because I was taught a lesson. I was getting really full of myself as I, my abilities were coming online. And yeah, I was handed my hat and I, I, I don’t wish that on anybody. I mean, I want people to learn the lessons through, you know, others and they’re, they’re sharing vulnerably and authentically, you know, so that’s why I do this, because I don’t want people to learn the hard way. But, you know, it’s not, it’s not an easy path. I mean, just being human and it’s not an easy path. So if, if you can help people along the way a bit by giving them a heads up like, hey there, there are landmines ahead. Be careful. You save somebody a lot of pain.

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Yeah, yeah, no, that’s great advice. Can you tell us about your two podcasts? I know we mentioned them at the beginning.

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Yeah. So I started Get Yourself Optimized first. It was actually called the Optimized Geek. And it was 2015 and I decided I was going to write a book, like a memoir or something, like a self help book. And I needed to interview all these wonderful subject Matter experts that I had been at their seminars and heard them speak at Masterminds and so forth. And so I started these interviews and I thought, well, that’s a silly waste to not actually do anything with the audio. I should publish those as podcast episodes. And then that became the thing and I was like, well, I’m just a podcaster now and the self help book hasn’t gotten published yet, but I’ve gotten 450 episodes so far, or maybe even 500. So that’s get yourself optimized. And then the other show marketing speak I’ve been doing almost as long started about six months later. And it’s because this is my ballywick. This is the area that I’m known for in the world as an SEO and, and Internet marketing expert. So certainly I should have a show about that. So that’s what I’ve been doing too.

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That’s great. If you could leave our listeners with maybe one powerful reminder about how to live an enlightened life, what might that be?

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Yeah, so everything is by the grace of God. So if you can practice as much as possible and even if it’s just simple, easy things to be in alignment with God and to kind of walk in both worlds simultaneously, this, this world, this physical world, and the unseen world, the upper world, simultaneously. This is the way of the great kabbalists. Kabbalah, right, is Jewish mysticism. But it’s really the laws of the universe, the laws of how reality works. And if you can start applying in simple, easy, kind of tiny habits. You know, there’s a book called Tiny Habits. It’s a great book by BJ Fogg. Implement little things that will make your life better, but not just your life, everybody’s life, because you’re living a more enlightened life in service of others. And so this is just starting those tiny habits. And a great example from the book Tiny Habits is if you want to get in the habit of flossing your teeth, just get in the habit of flossing one tooth. That’s easy. That’s a win. Celebrate the win. You flossed one tooth. Don’t feel guilty that you didn’t floss all of them. Like, this is a new tiny habit. This is a big deal. So if you can establish a new tiny habit of, let’s say, thanking God, the first thing that you do when you come to consciousness in the morning. This is a thing I learned from Judaism. It’s a prayer called I give thanks to God for bringing, putting my soul back in my Body as soon as I come to consciousness in the morning, before I even get out of bed. How amazing is that? Simple little habit just to, like, set a. Like to bookend your day at the beginning of the day. That level of consciousness, to recognize that, hey, it’s not a given that God puts my soul back in me.

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Right. Beautiful. I want to. Just quickly, before we end the show, I want to try something. I’ve never done this before, but I thought you’d be a perfect guest for this. I want to do just a quick two or three, four or five, I don’t know, little lightning round questions. Like, some of them are just one word answers, but I want to see what you think. A book that changed your life.

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The Great Game of Life and how to play it. It’s by Florence Scoville. Shin.

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Nice favorite spiritual practice right now.

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Talking to God in my head all day long.

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One word you’d use to describe your journey to date.

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Miraculous.

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Mantra or affirmation that you love.

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This too, is for the good.

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Yeah.

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That comes from Rabbi Nakamish Gamzu.

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Yeah.

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I want to give credit. It’s important to give credit.

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Yeah, absolutely. What’s one? The biggest myth? The biggest myth about success. You wish everyone knew that the law.

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Of attraction is something that you’re doing.

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If you could have dinner with any spiritual teacher, living or past, who might that be?

[00:43:35 – 00:43:37]
I really like Wayne Dyer.

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And one piece of advice you’d give your younger self.

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Don’t stress so much. This is all a total setup.

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I love that. Stefan, thank you so much. And thank you for showing us the real magic happens when we stop chasing success out there and start listening to the quiet wisdom within all of us. You know, success isn’t. It’s true. It’s true. Success isn’t about more hustle, more titles, more accolades. It’s really about aligning with your soul’s purpose and letting the truth ripple into everything you do. So if today’s conversation stirred something in you, a spark, a curiosity, or a nudge, trust it that your higher self is calling you towards something much greater. Be sure to connect with Stefan, listen to his podcast, and continue your journey of transformation at his websites. There’s a couple here I’ll mention for you. It’s stefanspencer.com and just to make sure you get it spelled correctly, it’s Stefan S T E P h a n spencer.com or netconcepts.com which is his business site. Also, remember to check out my [email protected] here. You can check out my life events, live events, private readings, and sign up for my weekly newsletter, the Enlightened Life Blog. And remember, you are here to live a life that feels as good on the inside as it looks on the outside. Keep shining, keep listening and keep choosing the Enlightened Life. We’ll see you next time.