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Episode Highlights:
Listen to Your Body’s Messages: Discover why symptoms are messengers and how tuning into your body can spark transformation.
Embrace Authenticity as Medicine: Explore how being true to yourself is essential for healing and breaking free from burnout.
Combine Modalities for Holistic Healing: Learn why integrating Western medicine with energy work and shamanic practices leads to deeper recovery.
Harness the Power of Words and Beliefs: Understand how your thoughts, words, and affirmations can change your healing journey.
See Healing as a Spiral, Not a Straight Line: Find out why setbacks and relapses are part of the journey—and how to use them for growth.
Simone also shares his story of leaving the boardroom, facing illness, and finding purpose as The Rocket Shaman.

If you’re struggling with burnout, chronic illness, or searching for your authentic path, this episode offers hope, inspiration, and practical wisdom.

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FULL UNEDITED TRANSCRIPT

Psychic Medium Scott (00:05.314)
Sometimes the life you build is the very thing that breaks you. Imagine climbing the ladder of success only to find it’s leaning against the wrong wall. Imagine your body wants a vehicle for ambition, suddenly refusing to take you any further. This is where Simone Luthier’s story begins, not with triumph, but with collapse. A diagnosis that sounded like a death sentence, a system that offered pills.

but not healing. But what if illness isn’t the enemy? What if it’s a messenger trying to wake us up? Today we meet a man who walked away from everything he thought he was only to become something the world desperately needs, a rocket shaman. I’m Scott Allen and you’re listening to the enlightened life podcast where we explore the mysteries of the soul’s journey, healing and transformation.

My guest today is Simone Lutti. He’s a former high powered executive who left the boardroom for the medicine wheel, a survivor who now guides others through the fires of illness, burnout, and identity crisis. Simone is the author of the new book, Becoming the Rocket Shaman, and he’s here to talk about healing, authenticity, and why sometimes the only way out is through. Simone, welcome to the show. I’m so glad to have you here.

The Rocket Shaman (01:28.767)
Oh, Scott, thank you. I’m delighted to be here. Thank you for this great introduction. You know, like I goosebumps hearing my own bio sometimes. I’m like, is this really me? Is this really happening? So

Psychic Medium Scott (01:37.646)
That’s awesome. I’m so glad you’re here. You your story starts out in the corporate world and nearly ends in a hospital bed. What finally woke you up and what did that real healing look like for you?

The Rocket Shaman (01:53.107)
Well, it was really a wake up that happened probably over about a seven year stint, I would say. In my book, I talk about these existential guideposts that we come along in life. And I think I was terrible at listening because I’ve had three near death experiences and autoimmune and cancer until I finally said, okay, something’s got to go on and I must not be on the, on the path and my soul path really.

Um, and you know, I would say back in 2016, I was on a mission trip with my son and the Dominican Republic and all of a had pain in my shoulder, which in essence turned into a full blown inflamed body. Couldn’t get out bedridden, right? I mean, I had my hands swollen shot in the morning. I couldn’t open it at my own free will. And I had a very, um, stressful job still in corporate America.

And I just thought, you know, you got to just push through, got to push through, got to push through. And at the time I was still very much in the, in the Western system. And by the way, I’m just prefacing this. isn’t a podcast about this in the Western system, you know, but it’s just been my experience. And I see this with so many clients and also people I meet that the system only goes so long. they misdiagnosed me and we’re going to put me on malaria medication.

And, but the doctor said one thing that I still to this day have to be thankful for. said, well, you should go see an ophthalmologist because you know, this medication could make you blind and thought, well, my eyes are the only thing that are working. Like, why would I mess with this? So that’s been kind of the place where I was like, okay, this, this path isn’t working and what other ways can I look at healing? And so that’s been.

Psychic Medium Scott (03:29.931)
my gosh.

The Rocket Shaman (03:43.967)
when my brother suggested maybe you look into energy medicine, I didn’t even know what that was at the time, and look into shamanic practices and look into what else is happening. So that really was the beginning when I started to learn more about alternative ways of healing. But it wasn’t really until my cancer diagnosis in 2020 that I really got the wake up call to say, okay, you cannot continue to kind of be

in two worlds and you know, got to pick a lane almost. And that’s when I walked away from it all. know, big corporate job, good salary, you know, the regular paycheck, the nice car, all that stuff. Because my soul whispered, not so gently anymore, it was almost screaming at me, hey, you have a purpose to live, you have a message to come out, you have to, you have a much bigger

purpose, you would have thought and it’s time for you to step fully into your authentic self. And that’s what I’ve been doing now. So this message became a book, it became music, it becomes coaching. And now looking really to combine the two, you know, the energy medicine and the corporate coaching.

Psychic Medium Scott (04:59.746)
Wonderful. You because you say symptoms aren’t enemies, right? So they’re messengers. What is your body trying to tell you and how do people learn to listen or how did you learn to listen?

The Rocket Shaman (05:11.167)
Yeah, interestingly enough, right? I talk about my hands, that a lot of it started in my hands. I couldn’t feel my hands. And then as I was doing one of my first trainings, it was called a Grow a New Body with Albert Tobioldo. So he was at the cutting edge of really looking at nutrition and supplementation and detoxing combined with energy medicine to get people with these mystery illnesses back on their feet. And I still remember

standing on this castle room and we just had finished a celebration and I had my hand up in the air and I could feel energy entering my hands. It was very almost like a like a garden hose like hit hit my hand with energy and I started, I was started a bit and I was like, what the heck was that? And you know, now I know like the at the hands for me is sort of the entry point of energy that is coming in even truth coming through. when I speak

truth when I speak the message that I’m supposed to speak, have tingly hands. And so I think that’s probably been one of the subtle messages of like, hey, you know, you’re no longer using your hands to type or to do other things. It’s now really a tool to heal and heal others. And, you know, I could go on but I would say if I had to pick one that probably be one definite signal. I’ll actually share one other one.

because I think it’s important. I had an epiglottitis when I was three years old. That’s when the epiglott back here. So that little dangly thing behind the uveloids starts to swell up. nearly, my parents said they rushed me to the hospital and I barely made it. And throat has been my issue, I think, ever since. Even the cancer was in the throat.

Psychic Medium Scott (06:44.376)
Yeah.

The Rocket Shaman (07:01.727)
And now I know with all of the past life regressions and things that I have done and, you know, even tuning in myself that I’ve been told even by my own mother that not don’t be so loud, you know, what will the neighbors think? So I toned down my voice, I toned down my truth in order to fit in, right? I was somebody else in corporate America, not that I was, you know, lying or anything. It’s just I wasn’t my authentic self.

and trying to fit in sometimes means you tone down, you dim your light. And, so having this show up in my throat was also an invitation, I think of the universe spirit to say, you, you, it’s time for you to come out, you know, you need to share your story. mean, that’s part of why I’m here, why I do these various podcasts. And so it’s been so interesting.

Psychic Medium Scott (07:35.331)
Right.

Psychic Medium Scott (07:52.974)
I completely get that. I do like to talk about, because you said you were diagnosed with cancer, was 2020. And whenever we talk about healing and shamanism or alternative paths to recovery, what would you say, I mean, you continued on.

with not just the alternate, you did continue on with medicine, right? You doctors and regular medicine, right? You’re not telling people to forget that and go over here because I think it’s a combination of both. Would you agree? Yeah.

The Rocket Shaman (08:32.51)
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So when I was diagnosed with cancer in 2020, I went the illogical route and did, my, saw my trusted naturopathic doc in, Germany, did a lot of shamanic work. Then I went back, got chemo, uh, and then came back and did it kind of the whole detox again to get all of the poisons out. So for me, it was kind of throwing the kitchen sink at it because I wanted to survive. wanted to live. So yeah, absolutely right. think it’s, it’s important to empathize. isn’t the.

a full on attack on Western medicine. It’s you have to find for yourself what’s working with the caveat that I think sometimes only Western only gets you so far. That’s at least been my experience. And when you really want to heal and we’re talking healing, not just on the surface, but you know, really deep down generational healing stuff that’s been in your family for a long time. There are

Psychic Medium Scott (09:15.853)
Yes.

The Rocket Shaman (09:28.563)
that got abilities and methods here that can help and combine to really do healing on all the four levels,

Psychic Medium Scott (09:37.678)
Right. Yeah. No, I agree. Agree. And I just like to point that out because I feel like sometimes we’re doing a disservice to people that they leave, you know, they listen and then they go, well, I don’t need my doctor anymore. I can go, you know, I’ll just go try whatever it is that they’re going to try. I think it’s a combination of, these modalities, whether it’s, you know, energy healing or. Yeah. You’ve wrote that authentic and we touched upon this, that authenticity is the cure. So why is being yourself such a radical act, especially today?

The Rocket Shaman (09:56.063)
Absolutely right, yeah, I agree with you.

The Rocket Shaman (10:08.414)
It seems like a strange comment to make. My experience has been as a soul, when you’re not in congruence with your innate soul purpose and you’re doing something else, there are subtle facts, in my case, a couple of illnesses that came forth that were showing me that I was not in congruence.

Psychic Medium Scott (10:08.618)
I’m a brain that is by the way, I feel like it really is.

The Rocket Shaman (10:38.367)
And there is probably a twofold answer to that. One is words have energy. you know, I believe now that I probably manifested my cancer. My mom would always say, okay, you boys need to go and have colonoscopies because, you know, colon cancer runs in the family. I was always saying, I don’t know, cancer doesn’t, you know, it’s not my, not my future.

And it’s almost as a manifestation. My impression is that the universe doesn’t necessarily understand the word no or not. But where you put the emphasis was on the C word. And when I switched that around and I said, I live a long and healthy life, I’m healthy. That all switched. So same desired outcome, different way of phrasing it, right? And

Again, when we talk about authenticity, you know, I could take on my mom’s message of like, you know, you gotta, you gotta do something to prevent something. And for me, the authentic self, I always was looking at this maybe slightly differently to say, I’m actually not feeling this at all. But I was afraid to come out and say it in my own words. And that’s been kind of the silver lining through my entire life.

Psychic Medium Scott (11:55.502)
Right, Excuse me. I love that though, because words do have meaning. They have power and you have to be careful what you say because you’re still putting it out there. Even if it’s not the intention, you know, you’re still putting it out there and you’ve described healing as, a spiral, not a, not a straight line. So how can people move through relapse, doubt or even recurring pain without getting stuck in this shame mode?

The Rocket Shaman (12:08.668)
Right? Right? Yeah.

The Rocket Shaman (12:24.913)
Yeah, yeah, it’s a great question. And I know that concept of time isn’t linear, but it’s circular is maybe a little foreign to most people. That’s an aspect that I’ve learned when I trained with the Kero shamans from Peru, that there is a way to travel backwards in time and fix the illness at the root. Why is it showing up? You know, are you bringing it back in from a previous life through an incarnation?

and it’s not necessarily a beginning and the end, it’s, it’s a, you know, a circular motion. And, what was interesting to me was, right. I talk about 2020, through the kitchen sink at it, was basically declared cancer free in November, 2020. And I wake up in May, 2021 with this lump back in my throat. And I had a bit of a WTF moment where I was like, this cannot happen. Like I literally cannot go through this again.

And when I started to realize that, I now know that and stay with me, right? This is understanding my past lives and understanding why I was having all these throat issues here with lots of traumas happening throughout the various series of lifetimes. I was like, okay, so but in the here and now this is still here, right? I can’t fight it anymore.

It is starting to integrate and what can I do? And I went through a beautiful process. Many of you may be familiar with Louise Hay and her work on positive affirmations. Love her work. And I just started that positive affirmation again of I live a long and healthy life. I’m healthy. Basically removing myself from the illusion, even though very real, I could feel it in my body, but the illusion of being sick in the first place.

Psychic Medium Scott (14:02.296)
Yes.

The Rocket Shaman (14:20.819)
and equipping the body and our cell or my cellular structure with positive intent. And within, I think it was 30 to 40 days, this one way and it’s been quiet ever since.

Psychic Medium Scott (14:34.303)
No, further treatment.

The Rocket Shaman (14:35.549)
No further treatments. Didn’t take anything. Didn’t go through chemo. Didn’t do anything at all anymore afterwards.

Psychic Medium Scott (14:43.352)
Did you go back and get it verified that that’s exactly what it was?

The Rocket Shaman (14:45.951)
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I’ve had to go every three months to have, you know, they’re like, okay. And the last appointment I had, I think was last year when the oncologist said to me, I don’t know what you’re doing, but continue to do what you’re doing because it’s working.

Psychic Medium Scott (15:00.63)
You know, and I hope people pay attention to this that are listening because I’ve had, you are not the first person on the show that has had this type of, I call it miraculous, but it really is. It was a shift. was a conscious shift in how I’m going to speak and behave and, and heal your side of man. his episode aired, I think last week and he had, I think MS and was bedridden and he’s

completely free of everything and he walks and he coaches and teaches and speaks and it’s miraculous and I hope people will pay attention to this because I think it’s so important, really is.

The Rocket Shaman (15:41.735)
Yeah, yeah, it truly is. And you know, you think about it. Really, from the moment that we are born, sometimes in utero, even we’re bombarded with information, good or bad, right? And expectations, you have to be this way, you have to behave this way, you have to do this, this is the best thing for your life. And then you compound that with information you get in your adolescence. And you know, maybe you’re married to someone that has expectations, we never really question whether these this information is

is accurate is true. And by that, I mean, for us for me, right? Like, do I believe this? Is this my life? Is this something that I want to go through? And, you know, we we talked a bit about midlife crisis, some people get the motorcycle and go right back to sleep and others get sick like me, I hope you don’t have to go through. That’s why I wrote the book really is so that others won’t have to suffer through this. But when you start to disassociate from the bad information or the fear based world, I call it

And you start to really create a new life for yourself, right? It’s all about words of like, and you start finding yourself down through the rubble. It’s an amazing place to be because now it’s liberating, right? So it’s, it’s, you can finally show up as who you are. You don’t have to conform anymore to expectations because you think if I do this, I’m loved.

and now coming out of this on the other end, yeah, you could call it miraculous for me. It’s, literally once we start to really tap into our soul purpose and, you know, our innate knowing our inner knowing, this is my, my compass, my North star. have to go there. It is both, an amazing, like feeling every day to wake up and doing your, your, your, your life’s mission, but also.

found it to be very, very healing in all of the ways, emotional, physical, intellectual healing, because you’re no longer constricted by the prison of everybody else’s expectation.

Psychic Medium Scott (17:41.484)
Sure, sure. How did you come up with the name the Rocket Shum?

The Rocket Shaman (17:45.75)
Yeah, that’s a one. My brother called me that the first time and it was, he made a comment to someone at the speed of which I am transforming and healing. You know, he said to this woman, think this couple years ago, he’s like, well, you know, in the beginning, Simone didn’t even know anything about shamanism or healing or any of this kind of stuff. And from the moment he said yes, he took off like a rocket.

And, you know, then it was kind of a moniker and it stuck and that’s been becoming a rant. There’s the Rocket Job and Leadership Academy now coming out of this. So it’s been a fun journey.

Psychic Medium Scott (18:24.398)
Good for you. think that’s one. Isn’t it funny how you just kind of say, okay, I get it. And then just follow your path. And you know, when you’re trying to buck the system, it just doesn’t work. But you just find where you’re supposed to go and it all just lays out for you. You guide leaders through ego death and redefinition. So what does real success look like after you’ve lost everything?

The Rocket Shaman (18:40.307)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

Psychic Medium Scott (18:54.52)
that you thought was what mattered.

The Rocket Shaman (18:58.055)
Yeah, yeah. As I said, for me, it’s, it’s, it’s true liberation. of course, you know, there’s the, the, big thing of you still have to put food on the table and all that. Right. But just trusting that that’s all taken care of. you know, it was interesting when I first, became a Reiki master, I kind of hit that because again, my authentic self, but the world told me that that is not necessarily something that I should be carrying out into the open.

So when I put a Reiki master on my LinkedIn profile, I thought the world was coming to an end. right again, because we are sort of fearful of judgment and what will people think? And I’m a corporate exec and now Reiki master, you know, well, they roll their eyes and all that. And the interesting thing is nothing really happened in the contrary. started to have very much deeper conversations with people in the boardroom that I never thought I would have. and.

When I went deeper into my work, I had sort of two paths. could go, could turn my back on corporate America and I just do my healing work and my end of life and my books and all that. Or it felt a bit disingenuous. It almost felt like walking away from something that I was very much a part of for 30 years. So I decided to lean in.

And I’m equipping leaders and these are, you know, CEOs, founders, executives that have tried it all and are still coming up empty. And what I have found is that people lost their ability to be intuitive, to use their gut feeling, their decision making, you know, in the name of science and progress and especially in

financial world where I spreadsheets are the holy the holy grail, right? If the numbers tell you no, then say no, if the numbers tell you, go for it. And there’s so many examples by now of business decisions that have been done, because the leader actually used their gut intuitive feeling. And it turned out even though the numbers told them not to. So that’s where I’m at now I’m looking at people that to really teach

The Rocket Shaman (21:17.513)
the ability to be intuitive again, to look at practices to slow down and bring, or guess regulate their nervous system and become more conscious leaders in a world that really truly, truly, truly needs it.

Psychic Medium Scott (21:35.874)
I think that’s great. If someone’s listening today and they have some kind of chronic illness or battling some kind of mystery disease or burnout and they feel hopeless, what would you tell them? What’s the first thing that they could do?

The Rocket Shaman (21:52.639)
Well, selfishly, would go and get my book because I wrote it because I always say like, I don’t want you to suffer like I did. But it’s not so much about the book. I think the message here is about what is it trying to tell you? I firmly believe that things don’t happen to us. They happen for us. It’s just more having the courage to look into it.

Now, of course, if you really have a debilitating or a death sentence, so to speak, by Western standards, you’ve got to get help. And then the question is, where do you go? In my case, I threw the kitchen sink at it. The frustration that I have with the system here is that a lot of the proper diagnosis, and I’ll talk a little bit about that, it’s all here.

But either the doctors don’t know about it or the insurance won’t pay for it, right? So it’s kind of like this vicious circle. But in my case, right? So I was with this doctor. I was on prednisone, could dance on the table. Then I had heart palpitations and I thought I had a heart attack and had to get off of that. I had massive weight gain. And then this malaria medication that was gonna make me blind. And I just, I never took it. I was like, okay, I gotta go somewhere else. And so then I…

serendipitously ended up in Germany in a clinic and they diagnosed me with heavy metal overload with environmental toxins in my body and the food allergy. And if you think about today’s world, it’s so hard to breathe clean air, depending on where you live. We moved out to Seattle thinking we were finally having clean sea air and access to regenerative organic foods. turns out the mercury poisoning here in the air is so high coming from Asia.

that it’s actually not healthy, it’s a healthy air and you have to use a lot of air filters and all kinds of stuff. So it’s harder, right, to have an environment to live healthy. But in my case, I found an amazing doc there, went through chelation therapy to get heavy metals out, gone through a whole detox, changed my diet. And again, I don’t take any medicine at all. I supplement on just areas. So I would say,

The Rocket Shaman (24:06.077)
your terminal illness or your mystery illness isn’t the end, it’s the beginning because it is telling you, Hey, something is not working. Pay attention. And then the question is, you know, do you have access, you know, to someone it luckily, I think I even see it now on social media, there’s more and more clinics popping up that get it, that are starting to offer some of the treatments that I’ve talking about.

Psychic Medium Scott (24:18.656)
Right

Psychic Medium Scott (24:31.736)
You know, I’m curious, because we talked about how words matter, right? So if you’ve gone to your doctor and you’ve received the diagnosis that it’s a terminal illness, how do you think that affects their ability to, I mean, if it’s truly terminal, they may not heal, but I think, again, it puts those thoughts and those words, I’m dying, out into the universe.

The Rocket Shaman (24:59.294)
Mm.

Psychic Medium Scott (24:59.906)
Better way to approach that, do you think? I’m talking like physicians and how people relate to their diseases and that kind of

The Rocket Shaman (25:11.167)
Yeah, it’s a tough, tough, tough subject because I, you know, don’t want to come across as Mr. Know-it-all, right? I can just only speak from my own personal experience. I cannot jump into someone else’s life that has just gotten, you know, a diagnosis like this. My, my encouragement, however, to everyone is, right, we’re giving our power back to a physician. So I always say like, you know, we have somebody that went through medical school and

as training, but you know, in a split second, they’re basically deciding your fate, you know, is this now the diagnosis? And that diagnosis almost becomes like a badge of honor, so to speak, because if you go through, let’s just say, mystery illnesses that are so many out there, people want to know what it is. For some weird reason, we need to name it, we need to label it. And once you can label it, it’s kind of a, that’s what it is. Okay, now it explains, but that only is half truth, right?

And you’re absolutely right. So when you now start to internalize these words of terminal, this is the diagnosis, this is what it is. What are you going to do? Are you going to go home to Dr. Google or conversational AI and you’re to ask, what am I going to do with this? Right. And so you almost lock in that aspect of your being this situation into your cellular body. And I always say, um, take your power back, you know, at your doctor, when I take your power back.

And question is this true or not? Do I believe this or not? And this is with anything now that you’ve seen, whether it’s the news you’re reading, I think it’s a practice we should all be getting really good at. Is this true? Do I believe this? Is this mine? And I talk a bit in the book, I wrote a song about it, you know, what’s not mine to carry. And in my case, I just knew that I had a purpose. It was not mine to carry. even though I had this cancer diagnosis, it was like, it’s

It’s not mine. And I can’t really tell you why it was, but even going into the hospital to get chemo, I saw sick people around me. And in all intents and purposes, I was sick, right? mean, the results, everything, x-rays, biopsy, everything said I was sick, but I didn’t feel this way.

The Rocket Shaman (27:32.041)
Did that ultimately help me to get through it? I believe so, right? But do I have scientific proof of that? No, of course not. But I do feel like words, thoughts matter in a way that you go about it. And when you kind of call bullshit on a diagnosis and say, okay, my body is reacting, there seems to be treatments that are working, but I’m not calling it what the medical community wants me to call it. And I believe that I’m healthy. And again, positive affirmations of, you know, I’m healthy.

Psychic Medium Scott (27:55.79)
Mm-hmm.

The Rocket Shaman (28:01.523)
This is not my future. This is not mine to carry. This is stuff from my ancestors. This is part of a part of, know, somebody else’s life. it seems to make a difference. And in my case, it made a huge difference. I’m still here.

Psychic Medium Scott (28:15.116)
And was that hard to do when you knew you had the diagnosis? got the lab results, the x-rays, the biopsy. I’m healthy. I’m healthy. Is it hard to, is it hard to do?

The Rocket Shaman (28:26.37)
No, not really, but I chuckle because I had decided that I was going to do the 21 day mirror challenge of, you know, looking in the mirror and telling myself I love myself. Right when I started to die or the treatments. And of course, when you start losing your hair and you look like a naked guinea pig of sorts, right. And you have to look in the mirror and say, I love you. love you. I love you. That was hard. But

You know, it was a bit of a stretch goal, guess, corporate world would call it.

Psychic Medium Scott (28:58.366)
And, and, and, know, this is hard to do anyway for people generally to love that way.

The Rocket Shaman (29:02.461)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think maybe the, you know, as I’m kind of talking to you, I’ve never really thought about it from that angle, but I think I just knew that this symptom wasn’t against me. It was actually for me. It was showing me something and it was a matter of getting through it. And I just knew, think subconsciously that there was another life waiting for me on the other end. And it was just, you know, getting through it and, do what I needed to do so I could do what I do now.

Psychic Medium Scott (29:30.84)
Yeah, yeah. You call your book a survival manual for the soul. What important lesson do you hope readers take away from it?

The Rocket Shaman (29:40.883)
Yeah, I want to be an encouragement for people that have hit end of the road. And, you know, I call it, it’s really lessons in healing, chronic pain, emotional trauma and burnout when nothing else works. You know, as sad as it is, we have an epidemic right now of a completely different proportion. I heard a staggering statistic the other day that across conversational AI and Dr. Surgeon.

There’s 1 billion medical related searches happening per day worldwide. 1 billion. Think about this. And about 25 to 30 % of those are mystery illness. The staggering number of people that are having similar symptoms that I had and can’t get out of bed. You know, I look at, and I have my social media community, tons of people that are, you know, I don’t look sick or people tell me I don’t look sick, but I am sick.

Or, you know, I have good days, I have bad days, but I don’t know what to do. So the book really is a combination of autobiography and rituals that people can do that are both, you know, Western and some shamanic. And what I hope people get out is knowing they’re not alone and there’s other ways of healing and really going through the book more in a, you know, fun.

practical, okay, I’m going to do this exercise and dabbling a little bit into the unknown, I’m going a little bit into the woo woo. And come out of this with the same healing result as I did. And I always say I want to get the book out in the hands of millions, because it needs it. It’s a message of hope. It’s a message of encouragement. It’s a message of authenticity. And if more of us can do what I did.

my gosh, like, you know, we would have a completely different world.

Psychic Medium Scott (31:38.86)
Yeah, if you could look back and maybe have a conversation with your old self, the Simone in the Boat Room, before everything kind of fell apart, what would you say?

The Rocket Shaman (31:47.847)
Hmm. Yeah, that’s a, that’s a great question. I, I think I would tell him to go forth boldly in what he knows deep down. He, he has to do like, you know, don’t be constricted by others’ voices. And even though it may feel scary sometimes to do things because, you know, in my case, and I think for many of us, we do things because we want to be loved. And when you go against that, fear of

you know, rejection and is a big one. And so for me, telling myself in the boardroom, hey, like you have a whole other life waiting for you. And, you know, turn it up, turn up the volume. Don’t be afraid. will have people, you know, go away, I guess, in your circle and others come in and just be, be rest assured that, that, and that you’re doing the work that is needed.

Psychic Medium Scott (32:48.814)
I love that, I do. Before we close, I wanna give you an opportunity to share a message, story, anything you’d like to share with our listeners today who are on the edge, burned out, sick, or just searching for something.

The Rocket Shaman (33:04.263)
Yeah, again, I always say I could heal myself and so can you. I’m an ordinary guy from Switzerland that lived an extraordinary life, even the American dream until I couldn’t anymore. And when I was really going through an existential identity crisis of you think about my entire world is collapsing with an illness and I knew I could no longer stay in the safety of the of corporate America.

I shared with a friend of mine that I said to her, like, you know, I’ve been in corporate America, I’ve been in corporate travel, my entire life. And, here I am now doing end of life work as a, as a shaman, as a death doula. Like this makes no sense to me. And she said, it makes perfect sense. In essence, you are issuing the last boarding pass for someone. Pass it over or cross it over. And so.

I would say in my case, right, I’ve had these guide posts. So my life mattered. I just was doing things in a slightly different way. Right. it’s a bit of sometimes reading the tea leaves of your life, but I encourage people to look back at these milestones, at these memories, at these things, I call them again, existential guide posts.

And see if you can stitch together some kind of sense of your life, because I do believe that we are getting information through the universe, through God, through spirit, through messages, through illnesses that are important to show us the map forth. And it’s just a matter of, we bold enough to look into it and decipher our own truth through the noise in a fear-based world? So that’s my, that’s my encouragement. You have the map.

Go read it.

Psychic Medium Scott (35:00.28)
Beautiful. thank you so much for being here, for sharing your story with us. If you’d like to learn more about Simone’s work, his new book, or how to reconnect with your own inner healer, visit his website at www.therocketshaman.com. That’s an easy one to remember. Or for more episodes, to book a reading, or check out any of my upcoming events, head over to mediumscottalan.com, that’s A-L-L-A-N. If today’s episode sparked something in you,

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