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Psychic Medium Scott (00:01.602)
Every so often, someone comes along who doesn’t just talk about hope, they embody it. Imagine a life where suffering isn’t a dead end, but a wave you can ride where the invisible is as real as the air you breathe, and change isn’t something to fear, but to master.

In a world that can feel heavy, what if there was a cosmic easy button, a way to tap into the infinite, to transform pain into freedom and to remember who you really are. Today we journey with a woman whose very name is an invitation, Hope Fitzgerald. I’m Scott Allen and you’re listening to the Enlightened Light Podcast where we explore the mysteries of the soul’s journey, healing and transformation.

My guest today is Hope Fitzgerald, a spiritual teacher, intuitive dowser, healer, end of life midwife and author. She’s pioneered the infinity wave, guided countless people through the art of change and encourages all of us to spread hope infinitely. Hope, thanks for joining us. I’m so glad to have you here.

Hope Fitzgerald (01:19.124)
Scott, thank you for that beautiful. I love the way you did that introduction. Thank you.

Psychic Medium Scott (01:23.15)
Well, thank you. It’s such a pleasure. Such a pleasure. Can we go back to the beginning? You you said your name isn’t just a label, but but really a calling. Can you take us back to that moment when you felt that the most powerfully?

Hope Fitzgerald (01:38.171)
The most powerfully, I don’t know if I can say that, but I can say that I felt it as a child and it was just part of my fabric, you know, and I didn’t, it wasn’t conscious. It was just, you know, the being that I was. And it’s interesting because along the way I have met a few other hopes and I’ve pulled them aside and I said, do you feel the same thing? Do you feel that, you know,

The hope thing. They look at me blankly. No, what are you talking about? I can’t be the only one. I’m sure one or two said, yeah, I do. yeah, it’s been with me my whole life.

Psychic Medium Scott (02:13.532)
Psychic Medium Scott (02:26.958)
Can you talk about the infinity wave? What is the infinity wave? know I had read somewhere. Yeah, well I had read somewhere that it was revealed to you in 2010. So I was hoping maybe we could talk about that a little bit and what that experience was like.

Hope Fitzgerald (02:29.546)
I should talk about it.

Hope Fitzgerald (02:38.57)
Sure. So, you know, basically I’ve been a spiritual seeker my whole life since I was a child and

So I have gone down many rabbit holes and I’ve explored many things over the course of my life. But always in the mindset of being a student. And then in 2010, I had a very, very challenging year. at the end of that, well, towards the end of that year, I went for some sound healing courses and experiences to help me clean everything out and sort of start fresh.

And I came back from those retreats feeling pretty empty, feeling like, I don’t even have an identity anymore, is how I felt. And I was walking across my living room and all of a sudden there was a giant wave in front of me. Now I’ve never had visions before and this was not threatening. It wasn’t scary in any way. It was just astounding. And I stopped in my tracks. Fortunately, I had a dear friend over.

who was a witness. And I said, there’s this giant wave, know, it’s like 10 stories high and sort of the color of my dress and beautiful, but, and moving towards me. And there was kind of a, you know, when you watch the news and there’s a band, like a ticker tape kind of thing going across the bottom of the screen. There was something like that appearing in my mind. And the upshot of what it said was,

This wave represents a push of evolution that is coming to the planet and will be anchoring in at the end of 2011. If you choose to resist it, life will go much more difficultly for you than if you choose to swim with it or surf it. So then it turned on its side. So now it has a curling letter C like you’d expect a surfer to come through. And in that,

Hope Fitzgerald (04:48.336)
image, the message was, as the water moves away from the shore and deepens into the seabed, into the earth, to get its power to create the crest of the wave. That’s how the physics of a wave works. So should you, meaning me, but obviously meaning everyone, leave your book learning on the shore and go to the earth and the wisdom keepers of the earth for your knowledge. And then mix that with this incoming push, whatever this new

push of evolution was. And then that letter C of water didn’t just drop down into the ocean, it turned into a standing figure eight of flowing water. And that hung out in front of my head for three days with no explanation.

Psychic Medium Scott (05:35.918)
and it moved with you?

Hope Fitzgerald (05:37.533)
It moved around with me. It was like filmy, you know, and I was aware of it and it went wherever I went. I could see through it, but it was just present until I sat down with my dowsing rods, which I had been using for, by that time, 18 years. And I started asking questions. And that’s when I found out what this thing was.

Yeah, the figure eight of flowing water is a symbol. The symbol represents infinite love and compassion, but it’s a highly distilled, highly purified version of that, 10th dimensional, which just means highly purified. mean, and not something that we’re actually used to on this planet. And so,

the role, so the symbol represents this massive energy of love and compassion. And the reason why it’s in this figure eight is both the geometry and the water. And there’s a whole lot to talk about with that. But just to go through quickly, inherent in the water is that love and compassion. This is a way, this has been sent to us

by a loving universe to help us through the times that were ahead then and that we’re in now and have been in for a little while now. In order to remember to stay in that flexible state, when we’re in a state of love and compassion, we are in flow. When we are in flow, we are in a state of love and compassion. They are the same things. So when we’re in a state of flow,

we all have had that experience, we all know how life seems to just fall into place, how it is the cosmic easy button. It gets us magically from one state to another, one place to another. So that’s basically what the Infinity Wave is. And it’s here to help each and every one of us through these massive changes that are afoot.

Psychic Medium Scott (07:53.518)
So is this, it’s a healing modality or is it a state of mind or what is your, all of the above?

Hope Fitzgerald (07:59.217)
all of the above. It can be used in a million trillion ways. I don’t even know them all. My book goes into some of the ways that I learned in the first few years of teaching about it. But people have gone off and used it in a number of ways that I never dreamed of.

Hope Fitzgerald (08:26.226)
When we even just start to think about the infinity wave and imagine it maybe wrapping in our hearts or maybe from head to toe, we bring the idea of this figure eight of flowing water into our fields. Our fields begin to change. It’s a noticeable shift. It’s a move into a more sort of unified.

harmonized state. is, it usually brings a sense of peace. And that’s the kind of place we need to be in in order to deal with the things that are happening. Now, we need to find that quickly. And and we don’t have time anymore to go to a cave, right? And all of that. So

Psychic Medium Scott (09:21.656)
Yes, so if people want to access this, it within all of us or do they have to, in other words, if I wanted to have a Reiki treatment, I’d have to go to someone who does Reiki and get a Reiki treatment. Do you have to go to someone to access this?

 

 

Hope Fitzgerald (09:32.841)
No, no, it is free for everyone. It only requires imagination. And what I recommend to people is that you just play with it in the beginning until until you feel like, wow, this really works. So many, so many people have gotten back to me in ways that they used it. Crying babies on a plane, in a courthouse, in a doctor’s office, in a family setting, they’re

They bring the wave into themselves first and get into that state of equanimity. And as we know, everybody’s field affects everybody else’s fields. So if there’s a ripple effect of a person embodying the wave energy, first of all, then we can send the wave to anybody we want to, no matter how far away they are. We can connect, you and I can connect with the wave between our hearts, just very…

simply like that. And all of a sudden, the water in me is responding to the water in you at this 10th dimensional level. So is our conversation going to flow more easily? Probably. Plus being connected with another person in love and compassion really levels the playing field. You know, we’re moving into a world, I believe, I think the next stage of our evolution is not going to be so hierarchical.

And so this is a tool that helps to things even and equal, so that none of us is really better than the other.

Psychic Medium Scott (11:11.438)
Do you ever wonder why me?

Hope Fitzgerald (11:13.592)
God, And hello.

Psychic Medium Scott (11:18.334)
I mean, did you go through that? Because I can read it for them too.

Hope Fitzgerald (11:20.746)
are you kidding? Are you kidding? I was walking into walls. I’m like, what the hell is what’s happening?

Psychic Medium Scott (11:27.918)
Well, I like to say that because you know, there’s always the people who are skeptics and they listen to these shows and they think, what a bunch of malarkey but what they don’t realize is that we have also sat there and said, is this a bunch of malarkey or is something wrong with me or is it real?

Hope Fitzgerald (11:40.564)
Peace.

I have to tell you, Scott, that.

I mean, it’s a cosmic joke that this happened to me. First of all, I had my bookshelves lined with stories of people who had had entities appear to them and then they had a change of, like I know all about it. And I also felt because usually those people are people who had no idea about the other side of things. You know, they were closed off to the woo-woo, so to speak.

And so when it happened to them, it was very dramatic. So I thought, well, that’ll never happen to me because I’ve got a whole lifetime exploring these things. Well, the joke was on me because it’s one thing to read about it. It’s another thing to experience it. you know, Buddha said the longest journey is from the head to the heart. so we have, and that’s what they meant when they said,

leave all your book learning on the shore. So all those books in my office were ideas and beliefs, but they weren’t the gnosis. Okay. And that’s, that’s what I was longing for, to move from belief to knowing. And this journey made all of my mental processes go tilt. And I had to let go of them and surrender.

Hope Fitzgerald (13:14.922)
to the unknown and step off the cliff into trust with source. And I didn’t even know, yeah. So I was walking blindly. I was told to immediately start preparing a workshop for January. This happened in early November. book a room, charge people for it. I was like, I don’t even know what this is. What are you talking about?

Psychic Medium Scott (13:39.63)
I do know and if I could, know, because I know this isn’t about me, but I have to validate what you’re saying because I completely understand this. went through what I call a desert period. Really. It’s like the desert period. We all go through them. You had, said you had a really tough year. had a really tough couple of decades and I went through it. And then all of a sudden there was this moment. There was this awakening and it wasn’t until I said, all right, I give in, you know, I’m fine.

You know, let me just show me what I need to do that everything turned around and it was almost like the universe put arrows on the ground and showed me where to go and what to do. And then you’re there and it’s different for every people. Not everybody gets what I get. Not everybody gets what you get, but it’s the way the universe communicates with us. I would imagine, you know,

Hope Fitzgerald (14:14.398)
Yes.

Hope Fitzgerald (14:22.11)
Yes.

Hope Fitzgerald (14:30.1)
And I think it’s the setup that we do for ourselves as well. I as a result of opening to the wave and allowing, and I became a channeler, I was never a channel before, but these practices would drop in before each workshop. And I played my crystal bowls, which I had been playing anyway, just silently and all this. And anyway, I literally went step by step, inch by inch.

like you say, with spirit guiding me the entire way, thinking they’d take me away in a straight jacket, or this would mean something. And it ended up meaning something, but I never had advanced knowledge. It was always like, right in the moment, this is gonna be. And so this sense of…

Psychic Medium Scott (15:14.36)
Mm-hmm.

Hope Fitzgerald (15:23.422)
trust you develop as you did this surrender to not doing it alone, walking hand in hand with something else. And that trust is what the gnosis is all about. That’s how you get to gnosis. You would probably agree with me on that.

Psychic Medium Scott (15:43.724)
I get it. I do. I completely get it. It’s, just, you know, that you’re not alone and that trust doesn’t come easily. At least it didn’t for me. It took me, you know, a while to kind of, all right, because you can’t, had to get out of my thinking brain in order to, well, and you know, you say it’s in the moment too. And I can relate to that because if it’s not in the moment, then I think it has to literally just come naturally.

Hope Fitzgerald (15:58.367)
Yes, exactly.

Psychic Medium Scott (16:10.762)
Once I start trying to interpret and think and you forget it, I’m done.

Hope Fitzgerald (16:16.65)
I want to go back to something you said, you know, is this, is this, what kind of plan is this that these things happen to us? As I said, I started to channel and then all of a sudden like the gates opened and I was channeling all kinds of things and I never trusted channeling before that. was another joke on me. But, but creator, I’m going to call it creator force came in one day and

Psychic Medium Scott (16:39.682)
Yes.

Hope Fitzgerald (16:46.858)
kind of laid out for me how it is that we plan our lives. Do you remember the old game, the game of life?

Psychic Medium Scott (16:55.768)
Yeah. Yes.

Hope Fitzgerald (16:57.354)
When I was a kid, that was my favorite game. so creator uses that as a way for me to pick, you know, lot of pictures are used with creator force because language is not really, but I even laid out this big game of game of life and put on top of it, a track and field event. So imagine the game of life board with hurdles and shot put and you know, all kinds of those things. And

We set those things up. This is not really new news, except that our purview when we’re doing it is tremendous excitement. Like cheerleader pom poms, jumping up and down, I’m gonna get it done this time. And these hurdles are gonna be the things that she or he has to, they’re just high enough. We get to set them just high enough. So they’re hard, but they’re able to be gotten over.

And of course, if you didn’t get over, then you go around and you get another little helper person, maybe whatever. But when, when creator force explained this to me, I thought back to this wave coming in and I was not a young, a spring chicken. kept saying, you said, why me? said, why are you choosing somebody who’s not, you know, 30 or 20? You know, this is a

I’m a little long in the tooth to start introducing a whole new, you know, spiritual device, a tool to help people evolve. And no, you set it up and you needed all those years of all that training so that when you fell off the cliff, it would be meaningful.

Psychic Medium Scott (18:45.24)
Yeah. Yeah.

Hope Fitzgerald (18:46.954)
So, you know, and I said, well, you better keep me young because this is going to take a while.

Psychic Medium Scott (18:53.346)
You know, I just had a thought too, as you were, you were, you were saying this and, I, you know, I’ve talked to a lot of different people who have had a lot of different, what you call woo woo experiences. They are with experience and they say, why me? And my mother asked me that why you, why now? Because I was older. I was, you and then the only answer, you know, you come up with this, well, why not me? Like, who else is it going to be? It might be somebody else, but why not me?

And it just is, you know, it’s the path that we’re on and hopefully we’ll do some good with it and take what we have and what we’ve earned and gained and be able to help some people with it. You know, I remember reading that you are also an end of life midwife, which I need to talk about because that interests me as well. I’ve never heard that term before. We think of a midwife as someone bringing someone into this world.

How do you interpret that? Is it bringing someone into the next world or helping them transit from here?

Hope Fitzgerald (19:55.595)
Yes. Yeah. And so there are other terms for it, a death doula. way back when, I just didn’t like that term as much. And it always felt to me like midwifery, like I’m helping to deliver a person back.

Psychic Medium Scott (20:00.994)
Yes, yes, what I’ve heard.

Hope Fitzgerald (20:23.718)
It’s so sacred. It’s so sacred. And so I felt like midwifery is a more respectful, I don’t know, for me, for me, just because I don’t want to put anybody down here. for me, and so I came up with that term as a way to describe it. I don’t do it that often anymore, but I’m always honored.

Psychic Medium Scott (20:37.666)
No question.

Hope Fitzgerald (20:53.692)
when I have the opportunity to do it because it is so sacred.

Psychic Medium Scott (20:59.864)
Did that come before or after your, I guess, awakening or, know, like, what better word?

Hope Fitzgerald (21:06.298)
Mm-hmm. Well, I was always semi-awake. I started doing it before the wave came in, but I was already on a spiritual path. But I, and it happened first with my grandmother and helping her and my experience with her in the last night of her life, really set me up, you know, to pursue this. And

But when I, I guess I’ve always been interested in death. When I was in high school, I read Elizabeth Kuhler Ross’s On Death and Dying. Now that’s not a typical high school book. Of course you have.

Psychic Medium Scott (21:48.792)
No, but I’ve read it. Yeah, a long time.

Hope Fitzgerald (21:54.431)
But that’s the kind of thing that I was drawn to at a very young age. So it’s been with me a long time. And then finally, these deaf dual classes started to happen. I’d already experienced several assisting people to transition. So honestly, I didn’t need the course, but I took it because I wanted to show the world that, yeah, I’m certified to do this.

But it is absolutely, I mean, if we all have the opportunity to assist somebody at some point in time, we should take it. That’s kind of what I, because we need to understand for our own education, you know, people used to die all the time. A hundred years ago, people were dying all the time, young and old, of this and that and the other thing. Death was so much more present.

And as a result of it being present, we had a dialogue with it. Think of all the poetry that came out about death, you know, a hundred years ago and before that. Nowadays, it’s as if it’s cordoned off in some back room. That’s not healthy because it is, in fact, I work with a wonderful man, Gary Malkin, who’s a composer and a number of other things, but he put together with a

Psychic Medium Scott (23:02.446)
Yeah.

Psychic Medium Scott (23:09.806)
sanitized and kept away.

Hope Fitzgerald (23:23.11)
another couple, something called Graceful Passages years ago. And it is spoken word and music on this transition. And it is absolutely incredible and so helpful for people who are either the family members, the loved ones, or the person transitioning. And so he and I have created a workshop about it. so for a couple of years now, we’ve been doing that.

because it is so important to have death in the room all the time. We make different decisions when we realize we have an end date.

Psychic Medium Scott (24:01.934)
Can you talk just briefly about what you do as an end of life midwife? What is the role and how soon before the passing do you get involved?

Hope Fitzgerald (24:12.56)
It varies greatly. could be at the very end coming in. You feel your way into this. Sometimes it’s remarkable how often it happens because of this inability in our culture to face death and accept death. People who are lying there as a bag of bones, you know,

able to eat jello and that’s it. They’ve said to me, all I need to do is get my strength up and you know, eat a little more and start walking around and you know, it’s all I need to do and then I’ll be back in shape and this and that. I’m like, then in those instances, I have to tell them that they’re dying. I have to help them accept that they’re dying because

Once they accept it, then everybody around them can act accordingly. When the person who’s dying won’t accept it, is living in denial and the denial is just unbelievable, then no one else can be truthful, be honest. They all tiptoe around, you know, the person because the person can’t accept where they are. So there’s a whole lot of

of untruth happening in a situation. And what happens then is that they don’t get to have the proper goodbyes. They don’t get to heal relationships. They don’t get to say those final words that are so important for those who are left behind and so important to unburden the person who’s leaving. I, sometimes it’s just that. I’m helping them to…

move into acceptance. Sometimes it’s sitting with the person, sitting vigil with the person, helping them to be comfortable, working with them energetically. I use the infinity wave, by the way. It’s really good to help kind of loosen the soul from the skin of the body and keep things moving and make it an easier transition out.

Hope Fitzgerald (26:38.16)
So sometimes it’s really just talking to the family and that, you know, it just varies.

Psychic Medium Scott (26:45.486)
person to person. How do you provide comfort for someone who’s in such a state of denial?

Hope Fitzgerald (26:52.872)
Well, that’s a really good question too, because our role as midwives is not to project any belief system on anybody. we can, if they’re able to speak, we can enter into a discord that’s full of questions. And, you know, well, what do you think about, you know, the other, when you leave this body, what do you think is on the other side?

Do you believe that there’s another side? How do you feel about, you know, your life’s purpose at this point? When we look back, what do you see as a through line of your life and the benefits that you have brought to the world? Where are your missteps? You know, because we all have them. And, you you get into a conversation like that and at some point they may turn around and say, well, what do you think?

happens. And if that happens, then I can say, well, I believe that there is an afterlife and I believe that your soul goes on forever and you know, things like that. And if they want more details, I can give those and I can read books to them and passages that I can show videos, you know, to because there’s something called a good death. Okay.

Psychic Medium Scott (28:09.518)
Right.

Hope Fitzgerald (28:21.226)
I’m putting it in quotes because it’s not my term. And a good death would be, and it varies widely, but it would be one where the person feels complete and that they feel that they are in sync with what is happening. And they have said everything they wanted to say. And the people who they care about have come and said those things.

Psychic Medium Scott (28:23.342)
Right, understand.

Hope Fitzgerald (28:50.858)
to them too. And so it’s a kind of permission which makes the whole transition easier. We have varying stages of what a good deaf can look like, varying images of what that could look like. But I like to try to prepare for that to happen as much as possible.

Psychic Medium Scott (29:15.68)
You know, and, and, and I just want to say as a funeral director for, know, it’ll be 43 years, I think coming up, which I, which I, you know, I did that forever, which is why I read Elizabeth Kubler. yeah. So, I mean, this is what I’ve done my whole life. do. I no longer do it. I sold years ago because I needed to follow this, but I will tell you, and I’m getting goosebumps here as I say this to you, because I’ve dealt with death and dying for so long.

Hope Fitzgerald (29:27.704)
I didn’t know that!

Hope Fitzgerald (29:32.072)
my gosh.

Psychic Medium Scott (29:44.546)
And I think the message from, call it spirit, creator, whoever, was real. I was able to somehow compartmentalize. I was able to help the families because of their loved ones who had passed. But it’s taught to you early on, as it probably is when you’re a nurse or a doctor or anything like that, is you cannot take that grief home with you. You can acknowledge it.

Hope Fitzgerald (30:11.87)
No. Yeah.

Psychic Medium Scott (30:13.91)
You can be there, you can’t fix it, but you can just acknowledge it and then you have to let it go. And when I got out and I sold the funeral homes and I started being there for my own parents who were getting elderly and having some issues of their own, this awakening happened and I realized

because all of a sudden I’m clear sentient in a way I never experienced before. I could feel it in a way that I had always shut it off and realized that now I’m still doing the work. I’m still with the same people on the other side of it. So I’m helping those who have crossed.

Hope Fitzgerald (31:06.036)
There you go.

Psychic Medium Scott (31:10.274)
because they have family here that miss them. And all of that was those years that I call the desert period. You the last 20 were rough. And I say, you know, those were a lesson. Those were training for what was about to come that I didn’t know about because we don’t always know what’s in store for us. And so here I am with the same, I shouldn’t say the same exact people, but the same type of people, the same situations, the loved ones and.

And those they’ve lost, with a greater capacity to feel and understand because I physically, was able to shut it off. And now it is just one of my gifts that I’m able to understand. And I don’t know, you know, I always say this to people. Would you say, well, would you do it again? Well, no, because, you know, I’m almost 60. So no, I don’t want to go back and go back to that lifestyle of 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I don’t want to do that.

Hope Fitzgerald (31:48.735)
Yeah.

Psychic Medium Scott (32:09.358)
Although I admire the work and I did it for years, but I really feel like the emotional part of it that I now experience would be much more difficult to shut off.

Hope Fitzgerald (32:23.28)
yeah. yeah. I mean, I find it so interesting and perfect that you’re doing what you’re doing now after all of that.

Psychic Medium Scott (32:24.865)
And so.

Psychic Medium Scott (32:35.158)
Yeah, and but I’ll tell you and and and this is why I ask a little bit about the whole end of life midwife because there were people some I knew quite well and some I didn’t who would come to me and say Scott I just found out from the doctor that I’m terminal and I’ve got you know whatever it is that they you know we’re told that they had I want to make my arrangements with you I found those to be the most difficult and yet those that was difficult from a human standpoint.

Like I don’t wanna sell you something, which you you have to kinda think about what you’re doing, right? I don’t wanna sell you something when you’ve just been told that you have six months. I just wanna be there and comfort you, but I can’t do that either, because you know, how do you do that? That’s not my job. So I did it. I found that that was difficult. Now I can provide some of that comfort that I was not able to provide before.

Hope Fitzgerald (33:06.729)
Right.

Hope Fitzgerald (33:25.044)
Mm.

Hope Fitzgerald (33:29.578)
Mm-hmm.

Psychic Medium Scott (33:33.676)
And so it really is kind of a switch, you know, that was just turned on for me, but I couldn’t go back and do it because I feel like the empathic side of me now would definitely get in the way.

Hope Fitzgerald (33:46.28)
Yeah, absolutely. mean, your heart is having to be so protected.

Psychic Medium Scott (33:54.094)
So it must be hard being what you know, doing what you do, being an end of life midwife. I don’t know if you’re with them long enough to build a relationship with people I had known for years. it’s not an easy.

Hope Fitzgerald (34:04.906)
Well, this is where you’re right. It’s not. But this is where the infinity wave comes in really handy because I can be in a state of love and compassion with the wave, but not have it permeate me. in terms of, know, of course, I mean, when I lost my own parents, there was personal loss.

Psychic Medium Scott (34:33.07)
Totally.

Hope Fitzgerald (34:35.646)
But the wave helps to keep that stable. you know, it’s just, I let the wave do the work. Let’s put it that way. It’s a higher level of love and compassion than I could conjure myself in my emotional human self. It’s a much more potent. So like take it away, Charlie. Let’s just, you know, you just do it for me. I’m in it, but I’m not in charge. And so it’s…

It’s a beautiful way to sort of hold state.

Psychic Medium Scott (35:10.606)
Yeah, yeah, and I think that’s the realization you almost have to have is that it’s not in my control. I’m just here to facilitate and I can’t control this. If you go into it with the right headset. Just off topic, not really off topic, but changing just a little bit. You awake, I wanna talk about that. It’s about mastering change, right? So what can you say about that? Why so many people freeze up in the face of change and what’s?

How would you guide them through moving through it?

Hope Fitzgerald (35:43.471)
Well, this is also some of my work with Gary Malkin, who I mentioned earlier. We have two courses. One is the grief literacy, he calls it, course. And the other is change literacy. people, you know, we’ve got this old reptilian brain that likes to fight, flight or freeze when something abrupt happens. And when you think of how often over the last five years, especially,

boom, boom, boom, every day we are barraged with something that’s happening that is really major. And so that has put humanity into this state of mostly freezing. I really noticed it coming out of COVID when we were starting to be able to gather again, people weren’t gathering. know, people were…

held inside and they were just still in that frozen state. And that’s what prompted this particular workshop. Because we want to be resilient. We want to be flexible. So what we mean, those go hand in hand. So what we mean is if you picture a willow tree, it’s very bendable. So it will bend and be flexible for whatever’s happening, but it is resilient enough to come back to its upright form.

So when we’re being bombarded with all these things, we have this flexibility to deal and then we come back into an upright position.

Change is inevitable. And that’s like a trite statement. For me, it helps to understand, and I believe it completely, that we are evolving. So we are moving from one state to another. And in the process of moving from one state to another, there is a great deal of messiness. And I’m in no way mitigating the pain and suffering of

Hope Fitzgerald (37:54.951)
of so many. And we have to go through some kind of transition. And actually, with the infinity wave, I’m just going to show here. No, that was right. This crossing where the figure eight crosses one another, we call that a peduncle.

And a peduncle is where you have an expansion and then you have a contraction and then you have a narrow channel. And in that narrow channel is where the alchemy occurs, is where the change agent, it’s where the atom turns into a molecule. It’s where growth into the next more elegant form happens. We all have peduncles throughout our lives. We can look back and say, Ooh, that was a peduncle. You had a long peduncle.

Psychic Medium Scott (38:48.206)
I’m gonna beat the uncle. Didn’t know that’s what it was. I might have had a lot more fun with it if I had known.

Hope Fitzgerald (38:55.25)
It’s actually a French biology term, pedonc. anyway, it comes out of Teilhard de Chardin. But anyway, so on a massive scale, our planet is going through pedoncle. So is the solar system. So is the galaxy. Everything is going through a version of a pedoncle. And so…

In a sense, all of this upheaval is to be expected. The question is always for me, what is it asking of me? What is it asking of me? How is it asking me to change? How is it asking me to be flexible and resilient? And that’s another reason that the wave is really helpful because it just keeps us in that flow state. So when things happen, we’re able to deal.

Psychic Medium Scott (39:56.014)
Right. You know, I, I, we’re coming near the end and I feel like I wish I had another hour to share with you because I’m really enjoying this conversation, but I want to give you an opportunity, you know, just to chat about a final message, piece of wisdom or anything you want to share with our, with our listeners.

Hope Fitzgerald (40:14.634)
Well, I think, you know, your, your work would probably echo what I’m about to say. And that is that we come into this world as just a spirit, just a soul, and we leave this world with just a soul. So what’s it all about Alfie? What is the

Do we want to leave with our soul unchanged from when we came in? Or do we want to have a life that is spent cutting facets and polishing that soul? And so when we live with the end in mind, and you talk to folks on the other side all the time, so I’m sure their wisdom comes into play here. But when we live with the end in mind and we think about the polishing of our soul, then every single decision we make, every single idea we have.

all the actions we take matter to not just the polishing of our own souls, but to the polishing of the souls around us. We are connected to everything, so it matters. And we get confused sometimes that we don’t matter. So I just want to say, you do matter a lot.

Psychic Medium Scott (41:36.76)
Do matter, I love that. You do matter. Hope, thank you so much for being here and sharing your story and being so honest and open with us today about everything that you’ve experienced and how this can help others. A few of the listeners would like to learn more about the Infinity Wave dowsing or hopes to book it. We didn’t even get into dowsing, so that’s a whole other thing we could have talked about. We’ll have to do another episode. But please, please check out spreadinfinithope.com.

That is Hope’s website, spreadinfinitehope.com. And for more episodes, to book a reading or to check out any of my upcoming events, again, please go to mediumscottallan.com. If today’s episode has moved you, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, share it with a friend, and most importantly, keep riding the wave. We’ll see you next time. Thank you so much.