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Introduction


Sometimes, the most profound healing begins not with a prescription, but with a gentle invitation to remember—a whisper from the past, a flicker of ancient wisdom, a sense that true medicine lives not just in the body, but in the soul’s deepest layers. Vibrational MedicineIn a world that often rushes us toward quick fixes and surface solutions, what if the answers we seek have always been quietly waiting in the spaces between? What if the magick our ancestors trusted is rising again, asking us to listen, to feel, and to awaken?

In this episode of The Enlightened Life, we journey into the heart of vibrational medicine, flower essences, and the divine feminine with Natalie Viglione—a practitioner whose life’s work is dedicated to honoring the old ways while navigating the challenges of our modern world. Together, we explore what it means to heal on every level: physical, emotional, energetic, and spiritual. We’ll ask: How do we reclaim the magick we’ve forgotten? How can ancient wisdom and new science meet to transform the way we live, manifest, and connect?

This is an invitation to pause, reflect, and open to the possibility that healing is more multidimensional—and more accessible—than you might ever have imagined. As you listen, I invite you to consider: Where in your own life are you being called back to something deeper, something wiser, something beautifully, inexplicably magickal?

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Takeaways

True healing happens in the spaces where dimensions meet.

Vibrational medicine addresses all layers of our being.

Flower essences can create profound emotional shifts.

Magic is the divine spirit within all things.

Every human has unique wisdom and magic to offer.

Skepticism often limits the understanding of vibrational medicine.

The rise of divine feminine energy is crucial for balance.

Creating healing spaces can enhance vitality and clarity.

We are entering a new era of consciousness and awareness.

Merging ancient wisdom with modern medicine can transform healing practices.

Titles

Awakening the Magic Within: A Journey of Healing

Vibrational Medicine: Bridging Ancient Wisdom and Modern HealingVibrational Medicine

The Magick We Forgot: How Flower Essences & Ancient Wisdom Are Changing Healing Forever

Sound bites

“Magic exists within all things.”

“Every single human has a wisdom and magic.”

“We are magic, living proof of its truth.”

Chapters

00:00 The Power of Vibrational Medicine

04:08 Awakening Magic in Daily Life

07:10 The Transformative Nature of Flower Essences

13:38 Skepticism and the Legitimacy of Vibrational Medicine

19:21 Creating the Forge and Flow Sanctum

22:34 The Rise of Divine Feminine and Masculine Energies

26:43 Signs of a New Era of Consciousness

32:18 Merging Ancient Wisdom with Modern Medicine

Full Unedited Transcript

Psychic Medium Scott (00:04.33)
Sometimes the most powerful medicine is the kind that calls us back, not just to health, but to the wisdom our ancestors carried and the magick we’ve forgotten how to trust. My guest today says that true healing happens in the spaces where dimensions meet, where ancient wisdom and modern challenges collide, and where the soul remembers its own power. My guest today says that we’re living through a great paradigm shift, one where the secrets of vibrational medicine

Flower essences and the divine feminine are rising to the surface, ready to transform how we heal, manifest and live. Natalie is a vibrational medicine practitioner, certified flower essence alchemist, root cause protocol consultant and master herbalist apprentice. She’s the founder of Awakening Magic, host of the Disrupt Now podcast and co-creator of the Forge and Flow Sanctum, a sanctuary for reclaiming vitality.

and honoring ancient wisdom in a modern world. I’m Scott Allan and you’re listening to the Enlighten Light podcast where we explore the soul’s journey, the mysteries of healing and the moments that transform us. Let’s get started. Natalie, how are you? Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining me and I’m genuinely excited to dive into your journey and the magick you bring to the world.

Natalie Viglione (01:21.24)
Thank you, Scott. So good to be here.

Psychic Medium Scott (01:29.184)
can you tell us how to pronounce your last name? And I had it right in front of me on the screen and I’m like, I am gonna butcher that. I did have to start again.

Natalie Viglione (01:35.648)
No, it’s a hard one. It’s a, yeah, biglione

Psychic Medium Scott (01:39.584)
You know what? would have said that. That’s exactly what I would have said. you know, Murphy’s law would not have been the right way if I had said it. Welcome, welcome, welcome. You your work, your work weaves together vibrational medicine, flower essences and ancient wisdom. And for those who are listening, who are new to this world, how do you define vibrational medicine and what first draw you to this path?

Natalie Viglione (01:46.238)
Right? That’s how that works.

Natalie Viglione (02:05.006)
Yeah, think there’s a lot of ways, you know, I think we all have our unique lenses when it comes to this vibrational medicine aspect, but the way that I see into that and peer into that, it’s taking into account there’s medicine for every layer of who we are, multidimensionally. So for example,

You know, the astral layer of our bodies, the energetic, subtle body, light body that we carry, carries the emotions. And there’s a way to provide medicine and remedies that can assist to get emotions unstuck that are within that layer. Because when things get stuck, when the energy is not flowing, when we have these points within us that are

vibrationally disconnecting us from our full multi-dimensional experience. those layers need to, you know, be worked through or massaged through, smoothed over, let go to be able to allow us to fully connect on all layers and all levels. So that’s really the way that I peer into this is it’s, it’s providing medicine for

all the layers and all the levels of who we are, instead of just looking at, you know, I have to heal my body, there’s a light body to that too. And this is very much connected to, you know, the earth mirrors, we are the earth and the earth is us. And so the earth also has a light body. And so we’re vibrationally connected to all things and therefore

you know, looking at this really holistic picture just brings this all together into a harmonious way of seeking healing that is more profound than looking at this aspect or this aspect as disconnected parts.

Psychic Medium Scott (04:13.024)
So when you speak about awakening magick in daily life, what does magick mean to you? know, beyond the cliches and how do you help people access it?

Natalie Viglione (04:21.111)
Mm-hmm.

Beyond the cliches for sure, that’s actually why I left a K on it because when you look into the ancient roots of an etymology of the word, you get into magi and into, you know, magick that existed very harmoniously with humans and this earth and all beings and all things. So what I’m really tapping into about magick overall, it’s looking at

the divine spirit within all things, the divine spirit within humanity, within each human, and that really is connecting into this, if we could say, the creator spark, the god spark, the divine wisdom that we hold as a unique perspective of living crystals that we are. And so it’s really

It’s about the divine magick that exists within all things and connecting into the spirit of that. And again, this is also looking at this vibrational essence that we don’t see. Many can’t see, know, we can photograph it. You can see, you know, orc fields, light bodies, et cetera. And we can see that vibrational, we can feel that energy often if we’re sensitive to that.

Psychic Medium Scott (05:36.052)
Yeah.

Natalie Viglione (05:51.182)
But that is the magick I’m talking about, truly, if we were to define it in a more modern way, it’s like the most advanced, quote unquote, technology that we could ever imagine of how you bring light into matter. I mean, is magick to me.

Psychic Medium Scott (06:04.394)
Do you can, I’m sorry.

Vibrational Medicine

Psychic Medium Scott (06:10.976)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, well, and I want to know just for people, because I can hear people asking, are you, is this considered Wiccan or not? You’re not Wiccan. So this is a totally different thing besides that. Why are you like sitting out in the woods here and it makes us wonder, you know, where you are,

Natalie Viglione (06:18.836)
No.

Yeah, yep.

Yes, I mean, you know, yeah, I feel like, you know, a lot of these different kind of religious viewpoints have gotten in my, from my seeing, you know, that’s where the tweaks and the angles and the dogma has gotten layered into some of these elements where

Psychic Medium Scott (06:49.94)
Mm-hmm.

Natalie Viglione (06:52.878)
I’m really wanting to peer back into the most pure and organic form without those structures, without those layers of almost like an intrusion on, you know, saying it is this way when really it’s always in motion and always changing and things are always fluctuating and vibrating. So yeah, yeah.

Psychic Medium Scott (07:16.16)
Sure. So I want to talk about flower essences for just a moment. We had a guest on earlier in the year who, that’s her thing. She’s really big into flower essences. And I know that that’s a big part of what you do. Can you share a story with us where maybe flower essences created a shift for you or maybe even for a client?

Natalie Viglione (07:28.045)
Mm-hmm.

Natalie Viglione (07:37.406)
yeah, for sure. Yeah, it’s interesting, you know, in my master herbalism studies, and this all came from a very mysterious illness that hit me in my late 30s. And it threw, it kind of thrust me into seeing the world from a very different lens and how I was going to heal my own body, my own self, my own everythingness. And…

When I, in the master herbalism studies, you I was obviously, you know, you peer into what herbs and the plant wisdom, the sacred plant wisdom that is available to us. But what I was really connecting with was the spirit, the energy of the plants, of the flowers. So I began really sitting with

these beings and you know, they would communicate with me what they’re called without me even having to look it up without you know, was just and then later I would you know, dive into research and realize oh my god, it was right You know, this is a beautiful what a beautiful connection to be able to speak to these beings, you know with just silence and It was then that I realized you know, this wisdom is far more

then I think many even can- I think many of us can’t even fathom the magnitude of the communication that we can have with these sacred plants and trees and you know everything. But one- I- so before I even started making my- my- became my own flower essence alchemist

I was really searching for high vibrational creators and I had the founder of Lotus Way who is a big, she does flower essences as well. And I really loved her and I loved her, I loved her, way, just approaching it from a very high quality, transparent, super beautiful.

Natalie Viglione (09:57.048)
creation and her connection as well by just listening. So she really, you know, felt like a soul sister in and I was like, you know, this, this is just magnificent. And these, these were layers of myself, you know, emotions that had been, you know, just stuck, stuck points within my field. And I had gotten her, sacred awareness essence.

And I started taking that years ago. And within that, you know, first six months, it just brought me to my knees in terms of, it was like I was able to drop in to true, what that word sacredness means, where, you know, you, you’re free from intrusions. You’re, you’re in this haven within your own field.

And, you know, I would just cry when I would try, when I would tap into the flowers that are in there, just, you know, they were pouring their wisdom into my being on that astrolabe, very subtly, very softly, but always working there in the background. And then when I began to make my own essences, the profound shift that I’ve had in working with mugwort, for example, as a flower essence, which is known, I mean, the,

Psychic Medium Scott (11:14.866)
Okay.

Natalie Viglione (11:20.172)
that plant took me on an incredible dreamscape and astral travels at night type of profound wisdom that would come during, you know, during the dream time. And so these experiences were just layers on top of my already intuitive knowing of this wisdom is profound and these plants and these flowers have so much to provide to us.

And so it really changed the way my healing journey, the trajectory of that journey, I should say, because again, these are, these are subtle, so subtle, so soft. It’s like they’re whispering into your light body and in, and when it hits you, it’s like one day you wake up and you’re like, wow, I don’t even, I don’t even have that emotion. like that, you know, weird emotion that I just feel like I couldn’t get rid of is gone.

Psychic Medium Scott (12:18.068)
Wow.

Natalie Viglione (12:19.384)
So it’s very light, you know, it’s not some like, you get, you know, you fall over and it’s just, yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah.

Psychic Medium Scott (12:25.202)
not a narcotic. It’s not psychedelic or something. Yeah. we’re not advocating for that. But there is a, it’s a subtleness. And each flower does something different.

Natalie Viglione (12:36.301)
it is.

Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, so each, it’s just, it’s literally mirroring humans, you know, that connotation that, you know, everyone is special, you know, and then there’s people that were like, well, no one, no, you’re not special, no one’s special. No, actually, every single human has a wisdom and a magick that they bring to this world, whether they see it or not.

Psychic Medium Scott (12:41.386)
Natalie Viglione (13:08.962)
That is exactly what happens in the flower world, for example, you know, since we’re on that flower essence topic. And so each flower has a perspective and a way of seeing and bringing their own wisdom into the world, just like humans.

Psychic Medium Scott (13:25.578)
Yeah, you know, I like to always ask this question and I get asked a similar question every time if I go on someone else’s podcast, but some skeptics will say that, you know, vibrational medicine isn’t real medicine. So how do you respond to them when they question the legit, you know, the legit, hello, legitimacy, you to say the legit legitimacy of your work.

Natalie Viglione (13:43.97)
Yeah.

Natalie Viglione (13:51.31)
Well, you know, we’re reaching, we’re peering into a time where, you know, again, I think that one of the most dangerous things that has happened to this world is dogma. And to think that this physicality is all that we see is actually, you know, you’re not seeing the entire picture. So I don’t…

think that we can ever convince someone who’s convinced that they can’t see. They can’t see and they won’t see. So to be honest, I don’t even have those conversations because that to me doesn’t even matter. But those who feel it, those who know, know and they may not realize the profundity of it all, but it’s also, you know, it’s interesting. Like, you know, I’m in my studies and all of the, you know,

thousands of hours of research at this point, you know, it’s just The one thing that I think we are seeing mirrored is that this quantum science Conversation is catching up with what shamans and healers and the witches and the blah blah blah of all the world Have always known that there is an entire

reality, which is a technology, which is the magick, which is, you know, the fundamental elements of our actual multi-dimensional experience. And, you know, it’s interesting because it’s like, I always think about this in terms of giving visuals, like if anyone’s seen Doctor Strange, okay, that movie, I love that movie for many reasons. But, you know, he

he comes into that entire experience before he sees the quantum world, if we will, and comes from this dogmatic, you know, neurosurgeon viewpoint. And he’s blown away when he realizes what he knew was really nothing. And so I think that’s also the key is knowing the profound multidimensional experience that we are actually living in.

Natalie Viglione (16:11.362)
Like no one has seen that full, no one has seen the breadth of what that really is. And so if we think we know, that’s when we’re getting into dogma ourselves. So it’s like completely letting go of the knowing and realizing that with every step that we take, we can tap into a much deeper and even more expansive.

reality that we are actually living in every day.

Psychic Medium Scott (16:45.536)
Right? Yeah. And you know, it’s not exactly the same, but I always like to say to people, you know, you are in Tennessee, I’m in Massachusetts, my computer is not connected to anything, you’re outside, somehow, through wherever it is, we are able to communicate, talk, record and carry on a conversation. These are things people dreamed about 50 years ago that, you know, there’s no way it will ever be a reality, right? Or we had ideas of what it might look like a fixed to the wall with a big screen and the

Natalie Viglione (16:52.201)
Mm-hmm.

Exactly.

Psychic Medium Scott (17:15.314)
It’s, we are doing things that are really kind of woo woo. We just understand that when we turn this on, you can do it and we don’t know why it works. I don’t know why it works. I’m sure somebody does, but I don’t understand why it works or how it works or where it is in the atmosphere. I feel like it’s kind of the same thing. We just have to go with, you know, it’s a little bit of blind faith, but know that it does what it’s supposed to do. Yeah.

Natalie Viglione (17:15.331)
You’re right.

Natalie Viglione (17:23.554)
It works.

Natalie Viglione (17:39.776)
Absolutely. And you know, the other real truth here is that again, when we get into like, you can actually talk about this in a science scientific quote unquote way. And feeling that and it’s also seen by the changes that happen. When taking any kind of vibrational remedy, you know, one of our animals,

Part of my work is also working with animals in the same ways, pretty much. There’s some nuances, but one of our dogs, something that’s happening in this world is a lot of animals are getting sicker and sicker earlier and earlier in their lives for many reasons. But one of our boo-boos, as we say, he’s been taking homeopathy.

four times a day for over a year to help with a tumor in his liver. And that little baby is running around, know, just this morning, running around our house, playful as can be. And that animal is being fully supported by the quote unquote magick of the homeopathy. And so, you know, it’s like we have to experience it ourselves.

Psychic Medium Scott (19:06.88)
That’s right.

Natalie Viglione (19:07.734)
and be open to the possibility first because, you know, as you well know, there’s many people that don’t want to be healed or to change or to, and those are those, when you’re meeting it with that kind of friction, you know, then these kinds of things can’t work because it’s, it is literally like a brick wall being layered around. Yeah. Yeah.

Psychic Medium Scott (19:21.769)
Right.

Psychic Medium Scott (19:29.632)
100%. Can we talk a little bit about the forge and flow sanctum? You and your husband created it as a healing space. what is this and what inspired it?

Natalie Viglione (19:41.962)
Yes, okay, so this has been a, you know, a progress, a work in progress for long time. fact, we literally just landed on our land that we purchased over two years ago to guardian, I should say, to steward. Don’t like to use the word purchase or we don’t own this land. And we finally built our home. That took a year and a half. This has been, this is…

It was like a roller coaster ride of lots of vibrational remedies were needed. Let’s just say. we have, so Mark, my husband, he is a Tai Chi and Qigong teacher. And we’ve really began to…

Psychic Medium Scott (20:19.444)
make it happen.

Vibrational MedicineNatalie Viglione (20:36.494)
take all of, I mean, all of the certifications, all of the teachings, all the things that we’ve been cultivating for years now, coming out of city, New York City, coming into, you now we’re in a very rural, rural, middle of nowhere place. And we, our biggest vision is that we want to open this space as a healing sanctum, as a place where people can come.

to experience their own multidimensionality within our regenerative forest. We’re calling it Wensong Grove. But in this sanctum, Tai Chi and Qigong are a big part of the practices that will be taught. And of course, all of my work, which at the end of the day is really about helping animals and their humans.

to increase their vital life force because when we have vitality coursing through our entire being we are so much more present and able to do the things that we’re here to do whatever that might be. So that is our main focus is helping people to really have this vital life force flowing through them so that things can awaken and change and

you know, connection can just, clarity, you know, it’s a gateway to crystal clear clarity in the visions and being able to really connect into, you know, everyday living and just being able to handle the aspects of chronic stress that we’re all facing in this world. Yeah, I mean, we could go on and on about that kind of thing. environmental stressors, you know, so yeah.

Psychic Medium Scott (22:23.136)
the

We could, we could for sure. Yeah. You know, there’s a lot of talk too about the rise of divine feminine and masculine and what are these energies? And maybe you could just speak a little bit about how they show up in your journey and our journeys.

Natalie Viglione (22:47.946)
Yeah, sure. It’s been a very intriguing… I’ll just share an experience that I had when I was little because this to me has been a profound… I never quite understood the magnitude of what it was teaching me at that time, obviously, until such time. It literally hit me like, I call it like a 10,000 pound bag of fairy dust.

Psychic Medium Scott (23:17.598)
haha

Natalie Viglione (23:19.801)
But I used to have these visions of this female with a great white lion, like on a stairway to a golden city. And this dream was so constant. I mean, it was every night during my teens. And I know it was just like repeating, repeating, repeating. So I would remember. And I mean, you just don’t forget things like that when it’s repeating, repeating, repeating. So, you know, I’ve written about it and wrote poetry about it.

etc. This archetype of this female was the, to me, the cosmic mother and that energy of the divine feminine. Obviously we see a world before us today where the divine feminine and then the correlation to then said female as a representative, even though again that’s kind of a misnomer in a way because you and I sitting here have those energies flowing through us.

both the masculine and the feminine. And those, when they’re in harmony, that is when we’re embracing both our intuitive, compassionate essences and the action taker, for example. So that’s the energies that we’re really playing with here, these aspects of our true self, which is a harmonized and balanced whole being. And so that, for me, you know, that was a constant reminder that the,

this essence of mother, this essence of feminine and then thereby the female needs to be anchored back into this world because it’s through that that that is how we harmonize what we know is a very imbalanced world. I mean, we could talk about, you know, the balance just between the yin and yang from an ancient Chinese perspective. I mean, there’s a lot of words and a lot of ways.

Psychic Medium Scott (24:57.76)
Thank

Psychic Medium Scott (25:15.049)
Mm-hmm.

Natalie Viglione (25:15.266)
and lot of cultures see it very differently. But to me, it’s, some of us have these experiences to where we know, you know, I’m, there’s an energy that’s anchoring through me. And so that is how I came to know this cosmic mother, as I say, or this divine feminine energy in a really powerful way and anchoring and the colors that were associated were always this blue.

this blue indigo aqua beautiful mixture of colors that I could see and I could feel in my field and it’s interesting when you look at ancient texts for example the the ancient texts of the Essenes they talked of the azure breath of the mother so I mean it’s peppered throughout ancient texts it’s peppered throughout all of living our living story

Psychic Medium Scott (26:08.736)
Thank you.

Natalie Viglione (26:14.822)
And it’s that piecing that all together to see this bigger perspective of when that energy in totality gets anchored into this world, we’re going to find more balance, thereby even just a better balance and equity just between genders on that level. And then we can just think about what happens when we’re vibrationally allowing both of those energies to intertwine within us.

We’re not living too much in the logic. We’re not living too much in the flow. There’s a harmonized balance. That’s something. Forge and flow is fundamentally based on that foundation as well.

Psychic Medium Scott (27:00.034)
Do you see any signs that we’re entering a new era of consciousness?

Natalie Viglione (27:05.869)
Definitely. Yeah. 2020, you know, it’s been happening for a very long time. This is not new. However, I feel that, you know, the 2000s and this moving into this 2020, what we saw was a massive, you know, it was like a energetic bomb, essentially, that was dropped to begin to

You know, the light body of the earth is changing so quickly and thereby so are humans and actually every living being in this entire construct. yes. And you know, we can see that just by what’s happening. We can see it mirrored in what’s being created. You know, I just read, for example, some time ago, there’s a farm.

in the US, the size of Los Angeles, which I mean, that’s a that is a massive, you know, and it’s a multi generational farm. They are moving to regenerative farming practices, which means they are going to totally recultivate that entire size of LA land into healthy soil and they will not be using any kinds of anything on the land that is bad for

Psychic Medium Scott (28:33.834)
chemicals and toxins.

Natalie Viglione (28:35.084)
chemicals, yeah, all those things that so many farmers have taken, you know, because they needed to get more, more out of their crops, etc. So it’s huge. when you and you know, I’m I, that’s another layer that I really love to dive into is this, this way of like seeing the multi dimensional way that things are playing out. Even looking at crop circles, some of them are very high vibration.

Psychic Medium Scott (28:42.89)
Right. Wow. It’s huge.

Natalie Viglione (29:04.135)
and really call to me. And so it’s seeing.

Psychic Medium Scott (29:06.752)
Can you talk about that for a minute? Because that’s one of those things. You know what I mean? It’s funny, somebody was just talking to me about them recently. What are crop circles in your, your, you know,

Natalie Viglione (29:10.562)
Yeah.

Natalie Viglione (29:16.414)
Yeah, yes. Well, so I actually literally just put out a video a couple weeks ago about this. You know, there’s a lot of humans that have come forward and said, you know, we, we create these and they’ve been created by humans, even for marketing purposes and stupid things of this nature. many years ago, they started becoming a map. Not all of them.

Some of them very much have this vibration that I’ve called that me personally I’m called into and they speak volumes and I just tap into that energy, especially, you know, when I was there in that region in Avebury Henge, which is where in Wiltshire in England, know, they’re that’s where they’re 80 % of them in this world. So in that region, my husband and I were talking at some point when I came back and I was like, you know, that that area is

They have 80 % of the world’s chalk streams, which are these crystal clear, beautiful water. Oh my God, the water is crystal clear, gorgeous. And the mother energy is very strong in those lands for many reasons, but they have all the sacred wells. The shallows well is there, the red spring, the white spring. There’s a view. mean, so water. So when you look at water and you look at

the land itself, can mark my husband, also, he creates music. And so he’s like, man, this really looks like cymatics, doesn’t it? I was like, exactly that’s, so it’s like a, it’s a vibrational way of speaking. And I, and from my perspective, I see this as whether it’s just, they’re created in a divine magical way, or they’re

created through a human in a divine magical way, because again, we’re magick. And anytime we get divine inspiration to draw or to write or to do anything, that is a vibration or an energy that’s moving through us. And we’re telling that story or sharing that message or, know, psychically, you know, this is exactly what mediumship is, isn’t it? It’s receiving information and sharing it. Yeah, so.

Psychic Medium Scott (31:35.242)
Sure.

Natalie Viglione (31:37.294)
So yeah, that’s where I see and what I see crop circles as. These are messages and they’re codes that are being encoded into the lands themselves. Because when you really look at the many of the designs, they’re beautifully complex. They’re in a location that’s not easy to get to, but then you have layered on top of that, you know, the profound, when you really…

Psychic Medium Scott (31:58.304)
Mm-hmm.

Natalie Viglione (32:06.806)
break down what those what that symbology means these profound insights that can be garnered from tapping into that wisdom so just another layer of multi-dimensional magick in my eyes I would say yeah yeah

Psychic Medium Scott (32:23.2)
I just think they’re really cool. I just think they’re really cool. Yeah, you know, I know we’re getting near the end, but if you could change one thing about how our culture approaches healing, what might that be?

Natalie Viglione (32:36.214)
Hmm.

That’s a really great question because there’s so many ways to answer it. But I think that it’s, um, what I would, what I would love to see happen in this world in, in, in, in and around healing is, you know, right now it’s still, it still feels like you, it’s this ancient, I wouldn’t even say primordial wisdom that

Psychic Medium Scott (32:44.244)
Yeah

Natalie Viglione (33:07.988)
is met with this brick wall in allopathic training with the modern conventional way of seeing medicine and they collide it’s like oil and water constantly and one is right and the other is wrong one is right and the other is wrong when in reality what I would really love to see is these worlds need to melt again this entire construct of duality needs to break down to see

that there’s in trauma care, there’s powerful wisdom, know, surgeons that do unbelievable things. And in ancient primordial practices, there’s profound wisdom that needs to meet that. And that is, and then of course, tapping into the reality that what we see is just a tiny fragment of the reality of what’s really happening. And so when we look at healing,

Psychic Medium Scott (33:52.063)
Mm-hmm.

Natalie Viglione (34:05.461)
on all those layers and all those levels now, now, and then melding these things, that would be, that is what I see in dreams and in meditation constantly that it will happen. It will be, I am unsure if it’s in, you know, your, my lifetime, but it will happen. And that would change everything.

Psychic Medium Scott (34:27.008)
Do you have a final story maybe that you want to share or an insight or message before we close up?

Natalie Viglione (34:34.484)
Hmm, I think I’ll just tap into the simple way of just remembering that we are magick. You we are met with so many difficulties and challenges to live in this world, this, the systems that don’t want to fall, that systems that are clutching and holding on so tightly. And we’re having to really balance between almost two realities. One is a very harmonic.

beautiful, the other is a very separated and destructive patterning. And if we can come back to this reality every single day, the reality is that actually magick is real because we are living proof that that’s the truth. Just by doing what we’re doing right now. Just by existing. I think that is a very simple, simple approach that has gotten me through some really difficult times.

Psychic Medium Scott (35:32.992)
Well, I wanna thank you, Natalie, for your wisdom and for sharing your story with us. And for everyone listening, you can find Natalie’s work at awakeningmagik.com. And again, that’s M-A-G-I-C-K. And also at forgeandflow.org and through the Distrupt Now podcast. And I’ll have all the links in the show notes below. If this conversation inspired you, please share the episode. Leave a review and leave us.

or join us rather at mediumscottallan.com for more episodes to book a reading or to learn about upcoming live events. Again, I’m Scott Allan. Thank you so much for sharing your time with us today and joining us on the Enlighten Life podcast. Keep seeking, keep healing and remember that the magick you seek is already within you. We’ll see you next time.

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